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22 Rifles

Post by dddrees » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:28 pm

Small but modest collection but since I started late in life the plan is to keep it so. A few have gone and others have replaced them as I've tried to discover what all is out there and what works best for me.

The latest addition is the SA-22 and I can't believe I wasn't even aware this was out there. Somehow I missed it but as I said I started late and I have one now. It replaces my Ruger 10-22 Takedown because overall I just find the SA-22 a more attractive package and better fit for me. No need for synthetics and metal and wood are more attractive to me and bring me more enjoyment. Besides the history and what I've read overall this gun is just more appealing to me.

The Winchester 9422 vintage 74 replaces a Henry Golden Boy because once I discovered the 9422 I found the old school metal and wood more compelling. I still have the Henry but I've already told someone I would be willing to sell it.

The Remington 121 Fieldmaster just happens to be something that didn't replace anything but when determining which pump 22 I also wanted to go old school metal and wood but something a bit more budget friendly than a Winchester pump 22. My understanding is that Winchester may have the better action and more desirability but the Remington 121 was an extremely good design as well.

Keeping it modest I feel that currently I have one hole but have yet to figure out for certain what I will get. At this point I think that will either be a CZ or an Anschutz but I have yet to do the research to figure out exactly which one that will be.


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Re: 22 Rifles

Post by wingnut » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:20 pm

Drooling here!
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Post by North Country Gal » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:22 pm

Some beautiful and quality examples of 22 rifle artistry, there. Congrats. By the way, all the vintage Remington 22s like that 121 are starting to catch up to the old Winchesters as far as demand, so that 121 was a good choice.

As for a bolt 22, that's a must. So many good choices, there, but half the fun is the hunt for just the right one. Here's one I just picked up after a very long hunt for just the right one. It's the original Browning T bolt T2 (Deluxe) 22 LR, made in Belgium in 1966, complete with the factory supplied T bolt peep sight. Not a lot of these around, since they weren't made in high numbers. Makes a great addition to our new edition of the Browning T-bolt. Can't wait to get out and shoot it.
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When it comes to vintage Remington bolt 22s, just wait till bandit shows you some of his. You're in for a treat.

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Post by dddrees » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:41 pm

North Country Gal wrote:Some beautiful and quality examples of 22 rifle artistry, there. Congrats. By the way, all the vintage Remington 22s like that 121 are starting to catch up to the old Winchesters as far as demand, so that 121 was a good choice.

As for a bolt 22, that's a must. So many good choices, there, but half the fun is the hunt for just the right one. Here's one I just picked up after a very long hunt for just the right one. It's the original Browning T bolt T2 (Deluxe) 22 LR, made in Belgium in 1966, complete with the factory supplied T bolt peep sight. Not a lot of these around, since they weren't made in high numbers. Makes a great addition to our new edition of the Browning T-bolt. Can't wait to get out and shoot it.
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When it comes to vintage Remington bolt 22s, just wait till bandit shows you some of his. You're in for a treat.
Thank you and based on what I read I'm not really surprised that the Remiongton might be gaining in value. I think the biggest knock although it might be just a smidge less good than the Winchesters action was that it didn't have the Winchester name.

Very nice Browning. Yeah as far as bolt rifles I'm completely clueless but I would like a really nice example to go with my other rifles. So far the CZs and Anschutzs are the only ones I am aware of only because those are the ones that I keep seeing when people recomend something. However if I come across something like your Browning from the past that speaks strongly to me then of course I would be willing to go there as well. The time to get one isn't now but since my latest incoming is due soon the time to start looking can be begin.


So I"ll wait in anticipation until bandit stops by.

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Post by ChefDuane » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:12 pm

Henry Classic Lever, Mossberg 715T, and a vintage Nylon 66. Have to say despite it's age the best shooter is the Remi.
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Post by dddrees » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:30 pm

wingnut wrote:Drooling here!
Thank you sir.

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Post by North Country Gal » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:12 pm

Don't forget the single shot 22 rifles. Lots of choices, anything from very affordable to very expensive.

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Post by dddrees » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:13 pm

North Country Gal wrote:Don't forget the single shot 22 rifles. Lots of choices, anything from very affordable to very expensive.
I've also thought about that as well from time to time, so thanks for the reminder.

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Post by roddy » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:29 pm

Nice. As I've said before, I really like that 121. I can only hope mine looks nearly that good when I get around to rebuilding it. Have you had a chance to shoot the Browning yet? Tomorrow is supposed to be a few degrees above freezing here...I'm hoping to get out and put the first few rounds through the SA-22 I picked up last week.

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Post by dddrees » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:48 pm

roddy wrote:Nice. As I've said before, I really like that 121. I can only hope mine looks nearly that good when I get around to rebuilding it. Have you had a chance to shoot the Browning yet? Tomorrow is supposed to be a few degrees above freezing here...I'm hoping to get out and put the first few rounds through the SA-22 I picked up last week.

Here's hoping you do, and I hope to see it when you get it done. I'm all thumbs so it surely wouldn't be somnething that I would execute very well.

Congrats on your SA-22 and no I have not either, however as the weather gets better I plan to do so soon. My first range trip of the year will probably be pistols but I"ll have to take a few rifles the next visit. My range has a separate outdoor pistol range with electronic targets and I spend more time on that side. Generally that side is mine when I go and I kind of enjoy having the range to myself and not having to wait on others or having to walk to check or change out my target.

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Post by dddrees » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:31 am

North Country Gal wrote:Don't forget the single shot 22 rifles. Lots of choices, anything from very affordable to very expensive.

I guess the 22 bolt gun will just have to wait. I think I have a new addiction to Winchester Lever Guns. I did look at the Pedersoli Sharps in rimfire as well but somehow it just wasn't the same attraction it would have been in 45-70. Besides I do really like the Winchester Mirokus and Browning SA-22 Miroku that I have so far. Although the Anschutz kept calling me somehow the Low Wall spoke to me more. By the way I went 22 Mag.


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Post by Mistered » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:05 am

Only two .22s for me at the time - a JM Marlin Golden 39 and my dads old Mossberg M152.
The Mossberg 152 is one of the few semi autos that were available at the time my dad bought it and until rifles such as the Ruger 10-22 & Marlin Mod 60 came out it was a popular model.
While 'antiquated' by today's standards it is incredibly accurate and I would literally put it up against the so called 'best' match grade .22s.

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Post by dddrees » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:25 am

Mistered wrote:Only two .22s for me at the time - a JM Marlin Golden 39 and my dads old Mossberg M152.
The Mossberg 152 is one of the few semi autos that were available at the time my dad bought it and until rifles such as the Ruger 10-22 & Marlin Mod 60 came out it was a popular model.
While 'antiquated' by today's standards it is incredibly accurate and I would literally put it up against the so called 'best' match grade .22s.

Although my gun knowledge is extremely limited I'm knowledgeable enough to recognize the Marlin 39 for sure and believe I've also come across the Mossberg M152 once or twice as well.

If nothing else what I have discovered from owning that lever BB Gun when I was a teenager is the deep ties one can often have to those items we had when growing up. I don't have it now but I have thought about it I don't know how many times. No substitute will ever be the same or can ever replace them. Besides that it's extremely difficult if not impossible to find the build quality that existed back then.

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Post by Mistered » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:42 am

Besides that it's extremely difficult if not impossible to find the build quality that existed back then.
While largely in part true there were a lot of poorly built guns 'back then' - as well as a lot of other items.
Low tech machinery & technology and a lot of manufacturers had to rely on highly skilled workers to make up the difference.
With regard to guns while some were very high quality there were many that were very poor quality and some were not even safe to shoot when new.
An example would be the early break open action revolvers. A lot of manufacturers were 'getting in the game' about the time this style of revolver became popular and with many of them were making guns of very inferior quality. Even Smith & Wesson has some 'hiccoughs' during this time with some of their break open models.

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Post by dddrees » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:47 am

Mistered wrote:
Besides that it's extremely difficult if not impossible to find the build quality that existed back then.
While largely in part true there were a lot of poorly built guns 'back then' - as well as a lot of other items.
Low tech machinery & technology and a lot of manufacturers had to rely on highly skilled workers to make up the difference.
With regard to guns while some were very high quality there were many that were very poor quality and some were not even safe to shoot when new.
An example would be the early break open action revolvers. A lot of manufacturers were 'getting in the game' about the time this style of revolver became popular and with many of them were making guns of very inferior quality. Even Smith & Wesson has some 'hiccoughs' during this time with some of their break open models.

Thanks for putting into perspective.


Cheers,

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Post by North Country Gal » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:52 am

I'll back up what Mistered is saying as to there being a lot of poorly made guns, back in the "good old days". Labor costs and materials cost went up, fast, in the 50s and gun manufacturers like Winchester were having a hard time making ends meet with their old style, labor intensive manufacturing methods and, in Winchester's case, the old tooling was getting worn and badly in need of upgrading. Any student of gun history knows what happened in 1964 when Winchester finally had to pull the plug on so many of those old guns just to stay in business.

It wasn't just Winchester, though. A lot of manufacturer's were struggling with the problem. I distinctly remember the move away from tool steel on parts to metal stampings and cast aluminum (not forged) and, of course, cheap plastic and I do mean, cheap. By the mid 60s, there was also an issue with the availability of walnut for making stocks, so we saw a lot of guns going to birch and other more affordable and more available woods.

As always, you need to do your homework when buying any vintage gun as to just what you are getting. Being an old model doesn't guarantee it was a quality gun.

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Post by dddrees » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:58 am

North Country Gal wrote:I'll back up what Mistered is saying as to there being a lot of poorly made guns, back in the "good old days". Labor costs and materials cost went up, fast, in the 50s and gun manufacturers like Winchester were having a hard time making ends meet with their old style, labor intensive manufacturing methods and, in Winchester's case, the old tooling was getting worn and badly in need of upgrading. Any student of gun history knows what happened in 1964 when Winchester finally had to pull the plug on so many of those old guns just to stay in business.

It wasn't just Winchester, though. A lot of manufacturer's were struggling with the problem. I distinctly remember the move away from tool steel on parts to metal stampings and cast aluminum (not forged) and, of course, cheap plastic and I do mean, cheap. By the mid 60s, there was also an issue with the availability of walnut for making stocks, so we saw a lot of guns going to birch and other more affordable and more available woods.

As always, you need to do your homework when buying any vintage gun as to just what you are getting. Being an old model doesn't guarantee it was a quality gun.

Actually after reading mistreds statement the first thing that came to mind was Winchester and the after 64 cost cutting methods. Then I also thought of the numerous stories of manufactures and various things I had heard with regards to how they started cutting costs as well.

Yeah, Oops........

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Post by Ernie » Wed May 08, 2019 7:50 pm

Those are some beautiful rifles, saw a 6422 on auction yesterday asking $1500. Would like one but not for a while. I have mostly rimfire rifles and thought I would share 2 although they are not as nice as the others shown. Top one is a Steyer Zephyr ll and the bottom one is a Magnum Research version of the 1022 with their own aluminum machined reciever and carbon fibre wrapped barrel.Sorry for the picture quality I am just not a good photographer.
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Post by bandit1250 » Thu May 09, 2019 7:05 am

Here is my Remington bolt action 22 rifles. The oldest one is a Model 34 made in 1933 and the newest is a 582 made in 1978. I keep saying I need to sell off some of these but it is like parting with a friend. :shock: I need to think about it a little more. :)
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Post by dddrees » Thu May 09, 2019 8:52 am

bandit1250 wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 7:05 am
Here is my Remington bolt action 22 rifles. The oldest one is a Model 34 made in 1933 and the newest is a 582 made in 1978. I keep saying I need to sell off some of these but it is like parting with a friend. :shock: I need to think about it a little more. :)
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WOW!!!


So I have to ask what appealed to you or made you choose to collect so many Remington Bolt Action 22 Rifles?

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