What the heck is It?

Post by **Redthies** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:08 am

A forum member on a Land Cruiser site I’m on posted a pic of the rifle (below) but doesn’t know any history on it. It resembles a Winchester 1885, but the only markings on it are “patent pending 1901”, so I’m guessing it’s something else. Any of you smart old farts know what it is?

Mistered · Post by **Mistered** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:04 am

What caliber is it?

Post by **Redthies** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:39 am

He didn’t say, but I’ll ask.

Post by **Shakey Jake** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:58 am

Looks like a single shot rolling block action. Holland and Holland perhaps? If it's a .256 caliber more than likely. Did he mention the caliber?

Post by **RetiredSeabee** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:20 am

I would remove the furniture to see if there are any markings under them.

Post by **Redthies** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:34 am

He just got back to me. It’s a .22

Post by **Redthies** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:37 am

RetiredSeabee wrote:I would remove the furniture to see if there are any markings under them.

May be something under the fore end for sure. Easier if someone here recognizes it though;)

Post by **CT_Shooter** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:56 am

It looks like it could be a J-Stevens-Marksman-12-Rifle-22LR

http://www.icollector.com/J-Stevens-Mar ... _i27925219

Post by **Vaquero** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:13 am

Asked a friend, he says it looks like a Stevens model 44.

RP

Post by **Redthies** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:46 am

It does sort of look like a Stevens, but what I’m seeing that is throwing me is the trigger guard. It has an extra bit that encloses the trigger on the rear. The Stevens just has the swoop to the rear.

Post by **markiver54** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:34 pm

Whatever it is...looks old.

Post by **Vaquero** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:40 pm

markiver54 wrote:Whatever it is...looks old.

good answer

I resemble that remark.

RP

Post by **markiver54** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:44 pm

me too!

Post by **ESquared** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:34 pm

Looks similar to the one CT posted, but not exactly alike. Seems like there has to be an etching or a rollmark somewhere. Under the forearm is a great place to start...

So, it's a 22 single shot?

Post by **ESquared** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:35 pm

Is that barrel HEXagonal?

Post by **Vaquero** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:56 pm

Octagon most likely.

I went back to look, and you may be right.

RP

Post by **Flinch** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:51 pm

It looks like a Hopkins and Allen Model 822. They were chambered in .22 Rimfire.

Post by **ESquared** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:10 pm

Flinch wrote:It looks like a Hopkins and Allen Model 822. They were chambered in .22 Rimfire.

There's some encyclopedic knowledge! Nice work!

Post by **Redthies** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:53 pm

Flinch wrote:It looks like a Hopkins and Allen Model 822. They were chambered in .22 Rimfire.

Ding ding ding! I think we have a winner!!

Post by **Vaquero** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:35 pm

And the mystery is solved

RP

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