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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:58 pm

BigAl52 wrote:I think if I could find one in a carbine I would have one also.
im curious to how the balance feels with the carbine as well, i can say for me the 20in cch felt as nimble as my bb brass carbine 16.5, so while the 20 in brass feels kinda muzzle heavy for me the cch 20 did not.

but gun broken show 0 cch carbine anywhere as of yet.

on the 73 i called and talked to one of the reps from taylor firearms about the uberti 73's, there response kinda surprised me in a way but thye seemed honest, that while the 73 was a fine rifle and for sass work like greased lighting a steady diet of med to high pressure loads wasnt realy its cup of tea and that the 92 would be a stronger action. i did explain that i do enjoy shooting and it would possible be 500-1000/ month,

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by BigAl52 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:12 am

No argument from me. The 92 is definitely a stronger action than a 73 there is no comparison. But if your going to run a steady diet of heavy loads in the 73 it will handle it for a while and it will eventually shoot loose more than likely. But Uberti also says it will handle any of the over the counter 357 ammo. I dont shoot full power loads in any of my levers no matter what action they are. I use 5.6 grs of 231 and a 158 gr round nose Berrys bullet. JeBar hunts with his I dont. If I hunted with one of mine I would probably do the same as he does. One might keep in mind here these gun people see alot of people who abuse things and run loads exceeding the books. When someone asked them a question about a load and a gun there answers are often on the conservative side to cover there hind end.
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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:57 am

the sass loads we are reloading now theses are 38 sp are 2.6grs of unique with a 125 gr round nose, very light and manageable one handed out of my vaqueros and my rossi cycles them well. and im not wanting to load real hot at all, in 357 mag im looking at something i can use like a LEVERevolution - Hornady at 1400 fps or remmy 125 jhp at 1400fps. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html shows rounds like these hitting 2000 fsp from a 18 in barrel, these would be the top side of what i would use with the rare rare exception if i ever get hog hunt. when i do get into realoding more now i will be working up a lighter range load, but even then i kinda believe one should practice at least 50 percent of the time with the load you intend to use.

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:03 am

just checked gb and they show no 357 carbines yet, but there are a cpl 44mag and 45 lc so they are making it into distribution now

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by JEBar » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:00 am

BigAl52 wrote:JeBar hunts with his I dont. If I hunted with one of mine I would probably do the same as he does.
back in '94 or '95 we gave both of sons Ruger GP100 357 revolvers with 6" barrels .... as Al notes, we do hunt with them .... from day one, our hunting load has been 14.8 gr of W296 pushing Nosler 158 gr JHP bullets .... our preference is for Starline brass and CCI primers but we honestly can't tell any difference when using other brands .... both deer and boar have been taken with this load, recovered bullets have proven they perform as advertised .... I have carried it when hunting black bear as a backup but haven't ever fired it at a bear .... for that I prefer a Ruger Redhawk 44 Mag as a primary weapon when bear hunting .... in our Henry BBS 357, this load performs well .... I haven't had an opportunity to hunt with it but based on range performance I wouldn't hesitate to take on a deer or boar out to 100 +/- yards

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:33 pm

mine will mostly be a range rifle but im hopeing to get back into coyotes and hog hunting, hogs are getting real bad in the state and moving in. do you think with proper shot placement 150 pound hog humane kill is doable under 75 yards with that type of round ?? back when i was a kid dad had a mossberg or maybe savege i cant remember bolt in 22-250 that was a coyote getter, but that was when i could see alot better,

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by JEBar » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:10 pm

bmsma wrote:do you think with proper shot placement 150 pound hog humane kill is doable under 75 yards with that type of round ??

of that I have no doubt, if you do your part in bullet placement,

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by Bugs » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:39 pm

You can kill a hog with a head shot with a 22 mag.

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:52 pm

showed the pic to a friend that stopped by, now he is not a shooter of anytime, he is not anti gun, its just not his thing, but like myself is a old hippy, he looked at the pic and say " where did you find tye dye gun" i almost shot pepsi out my nose laughing, had never thought of cch as tye dye,

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by Aaron357 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:37 pm

Finally found one on cheaper than dirt. Just got her today, taking it out tomorrow, ill post pics of her gleaming in the sun, she's a beaut

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by PT7 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:00 pm

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Greetings from the Show-Me-State, Aaron.

Cool. 8-) Another .357 owner...the population is growing! Good caliber choice.
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Re: Color Case 357

Post by Aaron357 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:44 am

Oh yeah, love shooting 357 out her, little to no recoil. I was having so much fun I forgot to snap some pics, sorry:) Action was little stout to start but really ran well after around 50 rnds. Have to get used to the Buckhorn sights, any advice?

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by Mags » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:08 am

Have you tried the rear site Buckhorn options?

"...the rear sight contains a white diamond insert for fine-tuning height adjustment. This insert piece is also reversible and gives you a choice of U shape or V shape.." This part is held in place by a small screw.

I got used to the Buckhorn sites pretty quickly out to about 35yds. Beyond that I couldn't see well enough (old eyes) so I got a scope.
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Re: Color Case 357

Post by JEBar » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:51 am

Aaron357 wrote:Oh yeah, love shooting 357 out her, little to no recoil. I was having so much fun I forgot to snap some pics, sorry:) Action was little stout to start but really ran well after around 50 rnds. Have to get used to the Buckhorn sights, any advice?

best advice I can give is to spend as much time as possible practicing .... looking forward to your coming reports and pictures .... please take a look at our How Many ? thread and add your 357 to our community's total


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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:54 am

just to check.

has anyone actually seen or touched a CCH carbine yet ?? i have handle a cpl rifles and the cch is beautiful, but i tend to like the carbines, my lgs shows no avail yet from their suppliers, and gun broken doesnt have any carbines that i have found.

now i am looking for 357, thats what i currently reload for, but im starting to consider a 44mag,

the only minor thing i dislike on the cch and its just a me thing is i wish it had a metal butt plate and not the recoil pad,

https://www.henryusa.com/find-a-henry-confirmation/
this is a link for henry shipping and does anyone know what "improving delivery, might mean "

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by PT7 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:10 am

Totally conjecture, Troy.

On the availability list, those rifles marked "improving delivery to meet demand" may mean Henry is behind on their production goals, and trying to ramp up production on these models. They really do have a large variety of advertised Henrys this year, and everyone knows it has been a challenge to get them all out on a timely schedule. The availability list seems to be helpful though in their attempt to keep customers informed.

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:22 pm

Aaron357 wrote:Oh yeah, love shooting 357 out her, little to no recoil. I was having so much fun I forgot to snap some pics, sorry:) Action was little stout to start but really ran well after around 50 rnds. Have to get used to the Buckhorn sights, any advice?
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Re: Color Case 357

Post by bmsma » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:10 pm

PT7 wrote:Totally conjecture, Troy.

On the availability list, those rifles marked "improving delivery to meet demand" may mean Henry is behind on their production goals, and trying to ramp up production on these models. They really do have a large variety of advertised Henrys this year, and everyone knows it has been a challenge to get them all out on a timely schedule. The availability list seems to be helpful though in their attempt to keep customers informed.

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yeah i can see that, they are getting to very popular, and in the grand scheme of things id rather wait a few months for the quality we have become used to than have them get to big and watch the company go down the same road alot of firearms company's have.

the Henry company actually cares about the end client, most dont anymore

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Re: Color Case 357

Post by ESquared » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:25 pm

Now that you mention it, I don't know that I've seen a CCH 357 CARBINE anywhere, even GunJoker.

Even the CCH 357 rifle seems hard to come by right now, but so does the 30-30.

My read is that sales of the CCH line has exceeded HRA's expectations, and they've only got so much production time. That catalogue has gotten pretty darn big, and managing the inventory pipeline, from factory to distributors to retailers, gets pretty complicated, especially once they lose visibility of movement once things hit the distributor channel.

But, you're right, I'd rather wait, too, than see them rush things.
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Re: Color Case 357

Post by tractortad » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:35 pm

I looked over a CCH 44Mag Carbine a couple of weeks ago at the LGS - I was kind of surprised because the fit and finish was not up to what I usually see from Henry - forearm cap wasn't on straight and wood at the tang was proud. I guess even Henry is having some QC issues trying to keep up with demand. On top of that there was a big scratch on the barrel (probably happened at the LGS). They may have to drop the price a little bit to move that one....

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