Big Boy Trigger Job

[JEBar]

I've been looking at these guns in the stores in our area and have found a fair amount of variation in the trigger pull, one gun to the next. Some pretty decent, but some heavy enough to be a deal breaker for me. Just what can be done with these guns?

I'm somewhat surprised to hear that ..... with our 3 Henry rifles we have seen some initial stiffness in the lever action that smoothed out rather quickly when in use .... I haven't put a scale on them but can't detect much, if any, difference in the trigger pulls .... none have a competition, set trigger pull but all have a very respectable hunting rifle pull .... all that being said, I'm looking forward to reading reports from folks who have experience in this area

well .... I was clearly wrong .. .. after reading the post in this thread I got to thinking about it and decided I wanted to know for sure .... so, I ordered a Wheeler Engineering Trigger Pull Scale ===> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E ... UTF8&psc=1 <=== today I used it for the first time and it proved to be an eyeopening experience .... sample of results shown below :

trigger pull for our :

Henry CCH 45-70 .... 7.25 lbs

Henry BBS 44 Mag .... 3.5 lbs

Remington 700 300 WBY .... 4.5 lbs

Remington 700 30-06 ... 5.5 lbs

Browning BLR 308 .... 4.5 lbs

Winchester Model 94 30-30 .... 4.5 lbs

Remington 11-87 12 ga .... 4 lbs

that pretty well cements my decision to have the trigger on our 45-70 worked on in January

[Ojaileveraction]

There are many pages on DIY trigger adjustment for Marlin lever guns.
Are there any for Henry Rifles?

[JEBar]

There are many pages on DIY trigger adjustment for Marlin lever guns.
Are there any for Henry Rifles?

there could easily be any number for Henry rifles but I don't know of any, nor have I found any on YouTube .... even if there was, under most circumstances, messing with a trigger is a job I would leave to a good gunsmith

[Ojaileveraction]

there could easily be any number for Henry rifles but I don't know of any, nor have I found any on YouTube .... even if there was, under most circumstances, messing with a trigger is a job I would leave to a good gunsmith

I'm sure there will in the not too distant future.
Henry gets so many things right. Mine are excellent rifles even if they don' have match triggers yet.

[Conax]

I think the trigger on my BBS is the best one I've had on anything but a Stevens target rifle from the 1940s.
It has no detectable takeup and no creep. (really, zero) Then it breaks like glass and its very light. I don't have a scale, but it is light.
I guess different smiths at the factory do the fitment and assembly of them and some are more demanding than others maybe.?
I wrote the company a note thanking them for such a trigger job. You can ask Dennette Stellrecht.

[GFK]

Greetings,

I am new to this site. I recently put a H009 on lay-a-way. I should have it out close to year end. I was not in the market for one. I was looking for a used Marlin 336C. I noticed the Henry H009 in a back corner. It is a new 2015. That indicates how far in the corner it was. Most of the long guns are displayed as sooner as one walks into the shop. Anyway, I liked the finish and lifetime warranty. It cost considerably more though.

When I seen this post, I wondered about the difference between the 336W and H009 trigger pull. When I cycled the H009 with dummy rounds at the shop, it seemed fine to me. It even seemed a little smother than my 336W. But, I was in a shop. A day at the range should tell the difference. Nonetheless, I came across a link that compares Marlin, Henry, Winchester and Mossberg that seems interesting. So, I wanted to pass it along:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_30-3 ... tions.html

The gentleman who did the comparison, did not like the pull of the Henry. To me, it was not the same as my S&W 357 (which fires as soon as I touch the trigger at times). But, it did seem like a smooth and effortless pull.

[CT_Shooter]

Welcome to the forum, GFK. Glad you joined the conversation. You'll be hearing from others about that trigger, I'm sure.

[JEBar]

having seen the trigger mechanism of a Henry centerfire rifle that had been removed from the rifle, I'm having trouble trying to visualize what can be done to lessen the trigger pull ..

[GFK]

Welcome to the forum, GFK. Glad you joined the conversation. You'll be hearing from others about that trigger, I'm sure.

Thanks CT_Shooter.

[GFK]

having seen the trigger mechanism of a Henry centerfire rifle that had been removed from the rifle, I'm having trouble trying to visualize what can be done to lessen the trigger pull ..

I am not one to ask. But, I am a firm believer in not fixing what is not broken. One thing that does appeal to me over the Marlin is the lack of a crossbolt safety. It allows for greater concentration on the target once the hammer is cocked. Targets less than 200 yards, I think the pull should not cause a miss. It would probably be more of a steady hand.

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Just my 2 cent for what it is worth.

[Ojaileveraction]

One thing that does appeal to me over the Marlin is the lack of a crossbolt safety. It allows for greater concentration on the target once the hammer is cocked.

I like the CBS in my Marlins that have them. Feels safer using it when I'm forced to unload them by cycling them through the chamber. Unlike a Henry!

[GFK]

One thing that does appeal to me over the Marlin is the lack of a crossbolt safety. It allows for greater concentration on the target once the hammer is cocked.

I like the CBS in my Marlins that have them. Feels safer using it when I'm forced to unload them by cycling them through the chamber. Unlike a Henry!

I can agree. The tube load does eliminate the cycling to unload though. That is another thing that appeals to me. They both have their pluses and minuses. Marlins are faster to load. I say, Henrys are safer to unload. Plus, I do not like picking up ammo from the ground. I would hate to get dirt in the receiver. Yes, I do check the rounds. But, that reduces the load time which is a plus for a side loader.

[JEBar]

Greetings,

I am new to this site. I recently put a H009 on lay-a-way. I should have it out close to year end.

welcome indeed, delighted to have you join us .... if I was in the market for a 30-30, Henry's H009 would be my first choice .... I really like Henry's rotary locking bolt which seems to be patterned after the one Browning has used since it first introduced its BLR .... I'm really looking forward to following your range and use reports .... please take a look at our How Many ? thread (link below) and add your Henry to our community total

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=310

[GFK]

Greetings,

I am new to this site. I recently put a H009 on lay-a-way. I should have it out close to year end.

welcome indeed, delighted to have you join us .... if I was in the market for a 30-30, Henry's H009 would be my first choice .... I really like Henry's rotary locking bolt which seems to be patterned after the one Browning has used since it first introduced its BLR .... I'm really looking forward to following your range and use reports .... please take a look at our How Many ? thread (link below) and add your Henry to our community total

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=310

Thanks JEBar. Will do.

[Ojaileveraction]

welcome indeed, delighted to have you join us .... if I was in the market for a 30-30, Henry's H009 would be my first choice .... I really like Henry's rotary locking bolt which seems to be patterned after the one Browning has used since it first introduced its BLR

Looking for info on the H009 rotary locking bolt and can't find it?
Found some info saying it's based of the Marlin 336 action.
I'm confused now.

[JEBar]

Looking for info on the H009 rotary locking bolt and can't find it?
Found some info saying it's based of the Marlin 336 action.
I'm confused now.

sorry, I got in a hurry and wasn't clear .... I have a first generation BLR 308 .... its rotary bolt looks very much like the one used by Henry in its Long Ranger (H014S-308) .... I don't know anything about what Marlin uses .... it may also very well be similar to the Browning .... the style of bolt used by Henry in their 30-30 reminds me more of one found in Winchester's Model 94 .... I wish Henry would build a Long Ranger in 30-30, if so I'd be highly motivated to buy one .... with a 30-30 Long Ranger, we could load long range spitzer bullets that can't be used in magazine tubes

[Florida_Cracker]

Sorry I'm late to this post/discussion, but I just added a Brownells Cowboy Action Spring Kit ( part #080-000-192 https://item.brownells.com/brands/brown ... ng-kit.htm ) in my BBS 357. I read on the Marlin forum that the Marlin 336 hammer spring and the Henry center fire springs were the same so I took a chance. The Brownells action spring looks identical to the original Henry sans a coil.
For background, I got the rifle about a year ago and out of the box the trigger was right at 5# (Timney spring gauge). After about 300-350 rounds it had reduced to 4.75 (Timney - average 5 pulls). Today, I disassembled, lightly polished the hammer/sear engagements with a cloth buffing wheel / SS polishing compound on a Dremel. I replaced the hammer spring and the Timney pull weight was on the "heavy" side of 3.25. Since it was under 4.75, I confirmed it with by NRA Bullseye steel trigger weights (max of 4.75) and it broke consistently between 3.25 and 3.50. For $9 and the level of effort, I am a happy Cracker.

[Mistered]

Ditto what everyone else has said - my BBB has one of the best factory triggers I have ever had - possibly THE best. Nothing to do with it!

[tractortad]

Sorry I'm late to this post/discussion, but I just added a Brownells Cowboy Action Spring Kit ( part #080-000-192 https://item.brownells.com/brands/brown ... ng-kit.htm ) in my BBS 357. I read on the Marlin forum that the Marlin 336 hammer spring and the Henry center fire springs were the same so I took a chance. The Brownells action spring looks identical to the original Henry sans a coil.
For background, I got the rifle about a year ago and out of the box the trigger was right at 5# (Timney spring gauge). After about 300-350 rounds it had reduced to 4.75 (Timney - average 5 pulls). Today, I disassembled, lightly polished the hammer/sear engagements with a cloth buffing wheel / SS polishing compound on a Dremel. I replaced the hammer spring and the Timney pull weight was on the "heavy" side of 3.25. Since it was under 4.75, I confirmed it with by NRA Bullseye steel trigger weights (max of 4.75) and it broke consistently between 3.25 and 3.50. For $9 and the level of effort, I am a happy Cracker.

Nice work and great info. Thanks.

[JEBar]

in January we turned our CCH 45-70 and BBS 44 Mag over to a gunsmith for him to work on their trigger pulls .... based on his measurements, the OEM trigger pull on our 44 measured 6.5 lbs and our 45-70 measured 9.8 lbs .... fine adjustments to a Henry trigger pull require precision honing that is really as much art as science .... we set as a target trigger pull 3 lbs .... when I picked them up the 45-70's trigger pull measured 3.1 lbs and the 44 Mag measured 2.9 lbs .... having fired them both, his work has really paid off