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How many of you use a jag?

Post by clovishound » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:15 pm

Just curious. I discovered them several years ago and was instantly hooked. I had never heard of them before, not many talk about using them. I recently took the NRA basic pistol class online to prepare for basic pistol instructor course. I noticed in the picture they show both a jag and an eyelet, but only mention the jag for pushing a patch through.

I have found that they clean so much more out of a bore than using an eyelet. Get a nice tight fit and they also do a great job of removing lead. The only issue I have is that you have to be careful about the size and thickness of the patch. Too big or thick of a patch and they are too tough to push through the bore.
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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by JEBar » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:28 pm

I use both but most of the time I use an eyelet .... I have some plastic jags that do OK but like the metal ones better

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Post by PT7 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:52 pm

I use bronze jags to clean all my firearms...good tool, and they clean the barrels well.
You're right on the patch thickness. I make my own patches, and if I cut them a little too large, they don't go.

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:15 pm

I as well use Jags bronze. Tipton makes a nice set with all the sizes. I have one for my cleaning chores. Al
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Post by Les » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:38 am

I use Jags on my bolt action rifles, and a loop made from fishing line etc on my semi auto's. I feed the looped line in from the muzzle and fit a patch at the breech end. The jags definitely do a better cleaning job than eyelets.

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by CT_Shooter » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:10 am

I use a brass jag, too. I have one for each caliber I shoot. When I bought my brass jags, I also bought a brass rod. They're a great combination.
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Post by bandit1250 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:14 am

I only use a brass jag now. I used the loop years ago and never looked back after using the jags. The jags let the patch fold back when in the bore to give a very good fit and equal coverage to the jag as to not rub the bore. The loop cannot equal the jag in my opinion.

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by RetiredSeabee » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:55 pm

I use a jag every cleaning. The loops just don't get a good full contact cleaning. I can push a jag and patch through the bore and get clean patches in just a few runs.
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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by JEBar » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:24 pm

recommendations requested ....

Tipton 13 Piece Rifle Brass Jag Set ... https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-Piece-Rif ... RCKBGYZ2SH

OR


Hoppe's No. 9, 13-Piece Brass Jag Kit ... https://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-No-13-Pie ... RCKBGYZ2SH


question .....

does any company make jags for use with cables that clean in the direction of the chamber out of the barrel

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Post by Les » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:45 am

I can't really see the point on the Tipton set, but the Hoppe's look fine. The sharp point will make "spearing" the patch a lot easier than jags with a rounded end.

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by RetiredSeabee » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:32 am

JEBar wrote:recommendations requested ....

Tipton 13 Piece Rifle Brass Jag Set ... https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-Piece-Rif ... RCKBGYZ2SH

OR


Hoppe's No. 9, 13-Piece Brass Jag Kit ... https://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-No-13-Pie ... RCKBGYZ2SH


question .....

does any company make jags for use with cables that clean in the direction of the chamber out of the barrel
This kit by Remington uses a squeegee pull through plug. Not a traditional jag but they work very well. I picked up a smaller kit for pistols and I was impressed how clean the barrel is after one pull through.
You don't use a patch with it just clean the barrel as you would normally then pull the plug through.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/71744 ... eaning-kit
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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by clovishound » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:17 pm

I have seen jags that had a point on the threaded end. You could use that point to punch through a patch and then screw the jag onto the cable end and pull through. A quick search on the internet did not scare them up. Alternately, I suppose you could punch a hole in the center of the patch, and use a standard jag.

Sounds like a lot of trouble pulling the jag off the cable every time you put a new patch on.
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Post by Les » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:47 pm

Otis have a pull through system that uses a loop, but the patch is designed in such a way that it resembles an umbrella when it is assembled. This cleans the bore evenly. I used this system briefly until I ran out of patches. The replacements cost silly money here, so I just use my own patches now.

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Post by JEBar » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:39 pm

clovishound wrote:I have seen jags that had a point on the threaded end. You could use that point to punch through a patch and then screw the jag onto the cable end and pull through. A quick search on the internet did not scare them up. Alternately, I suppose you could punch a hole in the center of the patch, and use a standard jag.

Sounds like a lot of trouble pulling the jag off the cable every time you put a new patch on.
10-4 on punching a hole, that's probably the route I'll go

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by JNG3 » Wed May 10, 2017 9:32 am

Jag and rod is the only way to go. No eyelets or pull through systems.

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Post by Beech Creek Gary » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:23 pm

Both of those sets probably come out of the same factory.

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by PT7 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:46 am

Thought I would ask for some help on finding a specific size bronze jag ---- having trouble finding it on the net.

I commented earlier in the thread that I clean all my firearms with bronze jags, and they work great. They also help me to retain my reputation of a "cleaning nut!" ;) I recently started shooting my derringer using a .45LC barrel. But I haven't been able to find a .45LC bronze jag in my LGS, nor at the KCKS large Cabelas. Anyway have a suggestion where I can find it on the net? I've been searching, but not having much luck with this one. Seems odd to me....maybe I'm typing the incorrect description of the part.

TIA....appreciate your help.
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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by JEBar » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:15 am

I ordered a set from Amazon that included a 45 jag that I use on our 45-70 .... https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-Piece-Rif ... aning+jags .... it apparently is a precision jag because it works well on the 45-70 but will not work on our 44 mag

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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by RetiredSeabee » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:45 pm

PT I don't think you will find a jag listed as a 45 long Colt. The term long colt came after the 45 acp was developed. Before the acp the round was simply referred to as the 45 or 45 colt.
The term long colt just became used because the round was longer than the automatic round. So any .45 jag will work. Some manufacturers have tighter tolerances than others.
My experience with brass jags is that they all seem smaller than the bore they are designed for. Some are so loose that I can use two patches. I also have gotten good cleaning using a nylon bore brush with a cleaning patch.
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Re: How many of you use a jag?

Post by PT7 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:17 pm

Appreciate the help/suggestions you guys sent my way.

RSb ---> I was wondering why I had so much trouble finding a .45LC jag. Your explanation makes sense to me...thanks.
And I agree. Brass jags do seem smaller than the bore they're designed to help clean. I've found that particularly the case for my 20-gauge shotgun. I've used double patches as you have.
RetiredSeabee wrote:PT I don't think you will find a jag listed as a 45 long Colt. The term long colt came after the 45 acp was developed. Before the acp the round was simply referred to as the 45 or 45 colt.
The term long colt just became used because the round was longer than the automatic round. So any .45 jag will work. Some manufacturers have tighter tolerances than others.
My experience with brass jags is that they all seem smaller than the bore they are designed for. Some are so loose that I can use two patches. I also have gotten good cleaning using a nylon bore brush with a cleaning patch.
Jim ---> I did some internet shopping today. Decided on and ordered the Tipton Brass Jag set. I have jags for all the other calibers I own except the .45LC. I may get a new Henry rifle some day with yet a completely different caliber. So with this set I think I'll have all bases covered.
JEBar wrote:I ordered a set from Amazon that included a 45 jag that I use on our 45-70 .... https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-Piece-Rif ... aning+jags .... it apparently is a precision jag because it works well on the 45-70 but will not work on our 44 mag

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