Savage Model 67E 12 Gauge

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[Hatchdog]

Nice work. Man that bolt assembly was gunky. Looks great after you got it cleaned up. Glad you posted the before pics to really appreciate the amount of crap fouling up the works. Barn pests beware…

[BrokenolMarine]

Well, I'll give it another go. I was not successful. The cartridge lock bar was moving freely, but the tip is too worn to lock the shells in place. I have contacted Brownells, and USA gunsmithing via email to see if they have to tool I'll need to free the Nut/Bushing Combo inside the receiver to replace the bar with the new one I had ordered. I was unable to remove it with the tools I had on hand. Now, I'll have to see what I can do, short of driving to OKC and finding a gunsmith to free it up.

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The special tool must be some type of spanner wrench. My snap ring pliers won't fit in the area and the tips are too big anyway. Both websites say replies take two business days, and with this being Saturday, I figure mid week, next week. No rush, it's going to be a barn gun. I'll eventually get there if I have to attempt making the wrench in the shop.

I didn't pay that much for the gun, so it's a project piece. Hopefully, I'll get it going for Miss T. I enjoy the challenge. Neither of the issues were Safety issues, but I won't put it in the barn if it's not 100% functional. Cosmetics aren't an issue.

Watch this space.

[Hatchdog]

Watching…

[BrokenolMarine]

I had sent emails to Brownells, Savage, Midway, a (sortof) local Gun Shop, and after talking with the local gunsmith - an email to Murray State Colleges' (At Tishomingo) Gunsmithing Division. The emails stated that I had acquired the parts needed to replace the Cartridge Stop Bar, but I needed the tool to remove the combination Nut/Bushing. If they couldn't provide the tool, could they refer me to a source.

The only reply I got was from Savage stating that they no longer made or stocked parts for firearms "That Old." Tired of waiting, I decided my best bet was to "Make" the tool myself. I had been thinking about the manufacture of such a tool over the last several days, and thought either Bar Steel with small finish nails through appropriately spaced holes, or an old wrench with the ends cut off and use that. That's some hard steel and drilling it would suck.

Wait, I know... I looked in the extra tools bag at the barn and pulled out an old common screwdriver. Heated it with a torch and bent the end over. So far so good. Then, using the new nut as a guide I marked the necessary dimensions and got to work with the dremel tool and jewelers files. Boom. A little over an hour later I had the tool I needed. Wasn't pretty, but there she is:

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What do you know, it worked perfectly. With the bushing turned to the proper angle, I was not only able to hold the nut steady, I was able to lever the screwdriver lightly against the opposite side of the receiver to insure it remained locked in the nut. Boom, done. I easily removed the offending parts. There was a good bit of goo built up under them as the q-tip attests.

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While all the parts were out I detail cleaned the area before reassembly.

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It was a simple matter to install the new parts, and reassemble the shotgun. I tested the movement of the Cartridge stop, and though the new unworn bar did reach into the shell path, it appears that the interior of the receiver has worn a bit and there is wiggle room on the back of the bar. I tested the shotgun with actual shells and again had a failure of the shells to stay in the mag tube. Pushing the stop into the path of the shells, it works. (sigh)

I may need to put a shim behind the new Stop Bar to eliminate the shake. Old gun, it's a learning curve. Interesting.

[Hatchdog]

Nice job on the homemade tool. Probably took less time to make it than all the online looking to find one. Sorry you’re still having trouble but I’m sure you will get it worked out. Sounds like a project right up your alley.

[BrokenolMarine]

Nice job on the homemade tool. Probably took less time to make it than all the online looking to find one. Sorry you’re still having trouble but I’m sure you will get it worked out. Sounds like a project right up your alley.

I'll keep at it. I won't put it in the barn for Miss T unless I can get it right.
It is worth what I paid for the project it has provided. If I can't get 'er done, I will decorate the office wall with it.

[BrokenolMarine]

I had not given up, just been busy.
I cut a rough shim from brass, then shaped and polished it on the sanders, with final hand polishing. No joy when I tested the cycling. It did keep the cartridge bar from flopping, but, cartridges wouldn't feed correctly.

Next up, I heated the end of the bar with a torch, and using needle nose, I bent it to move it further into the path of the cartridges to improve contact. It appears the wear inside the receiver prevents reliable /repeatable movement. I'm at a loss. (I didn't worry, I still had the original part.)

Wall Hanger it is.

I have enjoyed the attempt, and learned to make the special tool I needed. That may come in handy later.

[Hatchdog]

That’s too bad but a wall hanger is fine too. Keeps that old Savage alive just not kicking.

[BrokenolMarine]

A few pics from the last work before I was beaten like a rented mule.

The brass bushing I made, it fit pefectly in the spot, just didn't do the job I wanted it to do. Later, when boredom sets in for one reason or another, I "Could" try a thinner copper bushing to see if it might work. Maybe, someday... just to see if it worked and because I was bored and like working at stuff. (And hate losing?)

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So after thinking on the issue and reading other's solutions on line, I tried the angle adjustment thing. Bending that steel wouldn't work without heating it. Needed the torch and the vise...

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Got it secured and the needle nose ready...
(The paper towel is behind it to get the camera to focus, Not trying to start a fire in the woodshop. I moved it before lighting off the torch and heating the bar tip to bend it. )

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When it was heated, I had to make my adjustments quickly. That bad boy went from bright orange to cool in seconds.

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I tried to adjust the angle three times and never got it just right. Again, too much free play. Beat me this time.
I have had success in the past. I got that Match .45 going again.