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Rossi has something new.

Post by Vaquero » Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:23 am

I just saw this mentioned on another site.
https://rossiusa.com/rifles/lever-actio ... -444marlin

Now, I may just have to try one of these out. ;)

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Post by Headhog » Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:07 pm

That's got to be a thumper. I'll bet deer fall over before you squeeze the trigger. :lol:

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Post by Vaquero » Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:42 pm

Headhog wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:07 pm
That's got to be a thumper. I'll bet deer fall over before you squeeze the trigger. :lol:

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Paul, I have two Marlins in this caliber,
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Post by The Happy Kaboomer » Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:12 pm

I have 2 Marlin 444P's with 1 in 20 twist Ballard rifling........It loves 300 gr JSPs and my 310 gr. cast bullets.

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Post by The Happy Kaboomer » Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:15 pm

I have 2 Marlin 444P's with 1 in 20 twist Ballard rifling........It loves 300 gr JSPs and my 310 gr. cast bullets.

REALLY GLAD.......ROSSI is offering a rifle in 444 Marlin.

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Post by BigAl52 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:45 pm

I hope its put together better than the last Rossi I looked at
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Post by Vaquero » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:39 pm

BigAl52 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:45 pm
I hope its put together better than the last Rossi I looked at
I've handled a couple of their 30-30 rifles and they "seemed" to be well built.
There's a member here jstanfield that has one of the 45-70's and he likes his quite well.
A few members over on MO that have purchased both 30-30 and 45-70's that are quite satisfied.
I have a pair of the older Puma Rossi M92's that shoot well and have had no issues with.
Marlin (may) eventually reintroduce the 444, but if like their new 30-30 and 45-70's will run near double what I suspect these will sell for.
In fact in just looking on GB there are a couple listed and one has a buy it now price of $889.

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Post by North Country Gal » Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:20 pm

As a long time fan of the 444, that is great news. Hope it brings back the 444 in popularity. it really should be more popular.

I'm still debating about buying that Ruger Marlin 1894 in 357, though. Just so hard to beat a 357 lever gun for fun.

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Post by BrokenolMarine » Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:30 am

I love my Henry 357 Carbine, with the octagon barrel, solid weight, there is hardly any recoil. Miss T loves to shoot it as well.
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Post by Vaquero » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:00 am

North Country Gal wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:20 pm
As a long time fan of the 444, that is great news. Hope it brings back the 444 in popularity. it really should be more popular.

I'm still debating about buying that Ruger Marlin 1894 in 357, though. Just so hard to beat a 357 lever gun for fun.
Always wondered why Henry never produced a 444, they brought back two other much older calibers. Why not the mighty 444?

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Post by North Country Gal » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:56 am

My guess about the eventual disappearance of the 444 was the growth in popularity of the 45-70, which was added to the Marlin line shortly after the 444. For sure, the 45-70 is a great cartridge, I love it, but so is the 444. What I appreciated about the 444, compared to the 45-70, was how much flatter the 444 shoots past 100 yards. I also think the 444 is a tad easier on the shoulder to shoot. Oh, it's no pussycat, but I'd rather shoot the 444 with standard loads than some of the current 300 to 350 grain 45-70 factory hunting loads.

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Post by fortyshooter » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:50 pm

I have the new Rossi Trapper in 45-70 from which I made the Mules Leg and the quality is very good. The action is very smooth and no issues so far. Only thing it needs is a Hi Viz green front bead sight in place of the dark metal bead.

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Post by Vaquero » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:36 pm

fortyshooter wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:50 pm
I have the new Rossi Trapper in 45-70 from which I made the Mules Leg and the quality is very good. The action is very smooth and no issues so far. Only thing it needs is a Hi Viz green front bead sight in place of the dark metal bead.
Hey forty, you shooting cast or jacketed pills out of that thing?

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Post by Vaquero » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:08 pm

I just found out some new info on the r95's.
I don't know if any of y'all are familiar with 1895gunner, but he does reviews on a lot of new firearms.
Here lately he's done a couple on some of the new Marlins and I know he's done one on the New r95's.
Here's a statement from him on Rossi.

I have found that the person in charge of the Rossi website is bad about copying their specs from one rifle to another. Their 45-70's are 1:20 and their 30-30's are 1:16. If you click on every R95 rifle on their website you'll see what I mean. Problem is, stores just repeat the same mistake on their websites. I'll ask Rossi however I expect the .444 will be closer to the 1:20.

I have a media T&E .444 coming to me very soon. I'll know for sure then.

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Post by Travlin » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:26 am

The Rossi specs that I read say that the stocks are "wood" not walnut like H.R.A. Also Rossi uses a crossbolt "safety" not a transfer bar. Wrong answer.

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Post by Vaquero » Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:27 am

Travlin wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:26 am
The Rossi specs that I read say that the stocks are "wood" not walnut like H.R.A. Also Rossi uses a crossbolt "safety" not a transfer bar. Wrong answer.
Yes. it has the CBS like Marlin, I've wondered why Ruger didn't go with the transfer bar also.
As they use it in their single action pistols.
Maybe just trying to keep it as much like the older JM Marlins as possible.
I've read they did change some on the interior workings.

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Post by Travlin » Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:34 pm

Randy, I think that Ruger had a great chance to do away with the crossbolt and use a transfer bar on the rifles but they chose the easy way out. As an aside the transfer bar is nothing new, I have an Iver Johnson top break 32 that was made in the late thirties and it has a transfer bar so it can "load six".

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Post by fortyshooter » Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:06 pm

Vaquero wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:36 pm
fortyshooter wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:50 pm
I have the new Rossi Trapper in 45-70 from which I made the Mules Leg and the quality is very good. The action is very smooth and no issues so far. Only thing it needs is a Hi Viz green front bead sight in place of the dark metal bead.
Hey forty, you shooting cast or jacketed pills out of that thing?

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Post by fortyshooter » Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:12 pm

I also ditched the crossbolt safety and made up another pin for use as the saddle ring. It is locked in place with the factory set screw and not used as a safety.
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Post by Vaquero » Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:15 pm

fortyshooter wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:12 pm
I also ditched the crossbolt safety and made up another pin for use as the saddle ring. It is locked in place with the factory set screw and not used as a safety.
That's sweet. wish I had the skills and had the equipment to do so.
I'll just have to buy one of the after market ones.
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