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A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

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A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by PT7 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:26 pm

Found a new-to-me product this week in the wally-world gun cleaning supplies. It may have been out for a long time, but I've never before seen it.

I regularly use Hoppe's #9 Gun Bore Cleaner for my guns, so needed to get some more. Right next to this bottle was another bottle of Hoppe's #9 Synthetic Blend http://www.hoppes.com/bore-cleaners/no- ... re-cleaner. The #9 five-oz. bottle cost was $2.97, the Synthetic five-oz. bottle cost was $7.97. The only difference on the bottles' contents is that #9 is flammable, and the Synthetic is non-flammable and biodegradable. Not much more of an explanation on the Hoppe's web site other than the Synthetic is superior. Neither bottle lists any ingredients.

Has anyone used/is using the Synthetic formula? Is there a difference in the cleaning results? The Synthetic bottle has the statement that it "is specially formulated to clean deeper and provide an increased level of protection for today's firearms."
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Re: A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by Henry88 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:29 pm

New stuff is maybe a little better, and more eco friendly, but at more than double the price ?

Of course a bottle probably last a couple of years, so what's $5 ?

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Re: A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by clovishound » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:53 am

Henry88 wrote:New stuff is maybe a little better, and more eco friendly, but at more than double the price ?

Of course a bottle probably last a couple of years, so what's $5 ?
$5!
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Post by Henry88 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:34 am

clovishound wrote:
Henry88 wrote:New stuff is maybe a little better, and more eco friendly, but at more than double the price ?

Of course a bottle probably last a couple of years, so what's $5 ?
$5!
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Post by grizzly » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:44 am

I have tried this. I'm not convinced it's better than the original. I looked up the contents and they are listed as a "Trade Secret".

Original Hoppes contains the following.

Ethanol 15-40%
Kerosine 15-40%
Oleic Acid 15-40%
Amyl Acetate 5-10% (this is where the pleasant odor comes from)
Ammonium Hydroxide 1-5%

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Re: A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by clovishound » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:50 am

My biggest problem with Hoppes is that I usually knock over the bottle at some point in it's life. It usually is when the bottle is nearly full.

I have almost finished a small bottle of Rem oil. It is the kind that has the little spout that flips up. When it is empty, I plan on filling it with Hoppes and then dispense it from the squeeze bottle. I really hate cleaning up spilled Hoppes. Should make soaking a patch easier than trying to wet a patch in the bottom of a nearly empty bottle of Hoppes.
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Re: A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:04 pm

clovishound wrote:My biggest problem with Hoppes is that I usually knock over the bottle at some point in it's life. It usually is when the bottle is nearly full.
I've been using Hoppes #9 for a while, but I pour about a 1/2 ounce of it at a time into a shot glass so I don't contaminate the rest of it while I'm working and, I guess, it also prevents me from spilling what's in the bottle. ;)
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Post by grizzly » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:21 pm

CT_Shooter wrote:
clovishound wrote:My biggest problem with Hoppes is that I usually knock over the bottle at some point in it's life. It usually is when the bottle is nearly full.
I've been using Hoppes #9 for a while, but I pour about a 1/2 ounce of it at a time into a shot glass so I don't contaminate the rest of it while I'm working and, I guess, it also prevents me from spilling what's in the bottle. ;)
This is exactly what I do. Take half dozen patches, line the cup and pour it in til the patches have absorbed it.

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Post by RanchRoper » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:10 pm

Good idea, I'm always worried about spilling it and have had several close calls! I'll try that.

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Post by Sir Henry » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:59 am

clovishound wrote:My biggest problem with Hoppes is that I usually knock over the bottle at some point in it's life. It usually is when the bottle is nearly full.

I have almost finished a small bottle of Rem oil. It is the kind that has the little spout that flips up. When it is empty, I plan on filling it with Hoppes and then dispense it from the squeeze bottle. I really hate cleaning up spilled Hoppes. Should make soaking a patch easier than trying to wet a patch in the bottom of a nearly empty bottle of Hoppes.
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Post by Rugerfanboy » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:29 am

My biggest issue with Hoppe's #9....it stinks to high heaven....plus it's way over priced. For the price that is charged....you'd think it would clean twice as good in half the time....but it doesn't. I'll stick with my Seafoam. $7 for 16 FL oz's and it doesn't stink one bit....which makes the wife happy. And it cleans just as good as Hoppe's #9 and it's cheaper per FL oz's. :D

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Re: A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by PT7 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:24 am

Really appreciate this thread with its tips, contents info, suggestions, etc...more than I expected. Lot of experienced Henry Folk around here.

Thought I would sum up with the fact that I bought a bottle of the #9 Synthetic to try out. Been having some challenges cleaning one of my barrels. Here was my experience this week.

I especially liked clovishound's suggestion to put the Hoppes into a smaller container, which I have done since the first time I knocked over a bottle and filled the neighborhood with that Hoppes "fragrance." So had the new expensive bottle opened and ready to pour some into a smaller container; then....Reached for the Hoppes, and yup, bumped the bottle and spilled about 80% out!!! :oops:

Now I know for sure why a person doesn't need to buy the more expensive Synthetic stuff. ;)
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Post by Rugerfanboy » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:20 pm

PT7 wrote:Really appreciate this thread with its tips, contents info, suggestions, etc...more than I expected. Lot of experienced Henry Folk around here.

Thought I would sum up with the fact that I bought a bottle of the #9 Synthetic to try out. Been having some challenges cleaning one of my barrels. Here was my experience this week.

I especially liked clovishound's suggestion to put the Hoppes into a smaller container, which I have done since the first time I knocked over a bottle and filled the neighborhood with that Hoppes "fragrance." So had the new expensive bottle opened and ready to pour some into a smaller container; then....Reached for the Hoppes, and yup, bumped the bottle and spilled about 80% out!!! :oops:

Now I know for sure why a person doesn't need to buy the more expensive Synthetic stuff. ;)
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Post by clovishound » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:04 pm

Well, I used up the last of the Rem oil the other day and filled the old container with #9. I used it to clean my 20 gauge O/U. I liked it. I really hate trying to soak a patch when the bottle gets below half full. I normally use a jag vs an eyelet, so squirting it on the patch worked like a charm. Unless I spill the whole bottle trying to pour it into the tiny little bottle, it should make a bottle last much longer. I use what I need instead of having a dripping patch.
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Post by Rugerfanboy » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:30 pm

What excuses do you guys use for when you stink up the house with the hoppe's #9 cleaner...??? Cause anyone that knows how bad hoppe's #9 is....has to have some type of excuse for when the wife hits the roof.

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Post by JCN » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:49 pm

I know a few folks that link the smell of Hoppes #9 to their childhood and therefore enjoy the smell!
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Post by Deadwood Dutch » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:23 pm

I actually don't mind the smell either, sorta like it :D but I take the used patches and put them in the trash in the garage to make my wife happy. As far as knocking over the open bottle after applying some to a patch and spilling half the contents, which I have done, I have learned to put the top back on as soon as I apply it, no matter how often I put it on a patch during any given cleaning.

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Post by RanchRoper » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:42 pm

Rugerfanboy wrote:What excuses do you guys use for when you stink up the house with the hoppe's #9 cleaner...??? Cause anyone that knows how bad hoppe's #9 is....has to have some type of excuse for when the wife hits the roof.
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Post by Rugerfanboy » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

RanchRoper wrote:
Rugerfanboy wrote:What excuses do you guys use for when you stink up the house with the hoppe's #9 cleaner...??? Cause anyone that knows how bad hoppe's #9 is....has to have some type of excuse for when the wife hits the roof.
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Re: A superior Hoppe's? -- #9 versus #9 Synthetic?

Post by 1911ly » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:41 pm

I love the smell of Hoppe's. My son does too. I guess it's a real man's thing. :lol:

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