New cartridge coming

[Vaquero]

Anyone heard this news? It's called the .360 Buckhammer.
Henry and Rem./Vista Outdoors are supposedly teaming up to introduce a new straight walled deer cartridge for those states that require a straight wall and a 1.8" case length.
Going to be a Real 35 cal., using .358 diameter bullets. 180 & 200 gr.
Advertised as being faster than the 35 Rem.

I myself haven't a need for one, but I do see it as a thing for reloaders.
As it may ramp up the production the ole 200 gr. Cor lokts.

https://www.facebook.com/HenryRepeating ... 431803787/

Thoughts?

RP

[JEBar]

haven't heard anything along that line .... does sound interesting .... that would create a strong cartridge in the very popular 357 caliber

[John E Davies]

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php? ... on.914184/

It’s similar to a .350 Legend with a rim so a Henry can use it in more models than the SS….

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I don’t know why anyone would want to buy one over a .44 Mag. Specialty cartridges are fads designed to make big money, then they fade away, unless they add some unique benefit, like the .327 Federal Mag did.

John Davies
Spokane WA

[Vaquero]

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php? ... on.914184/

It’s similar to a .350 Legend with a rim so a Henry can use it in more models than the SS



I don’t know why anyone would want to buy one over a .44 Mag. Specialty cartridges are fads designed to make big money, then they fade away, unless they add some unique benefit, like the .327 Federal Mag did.

John Davies
Spokane WA

Don't understand why the .355 bullet in the legend, to me they handicapped it from the get go.
This 360 is a .358, so a true 35 cal., and could benefit us that load for 35 Rem.

Being fast than the 35 Rem. the 44 is Way behind.
I'll most likely own neither of these reinvented wheels.

RP

[North Country Gal]

Best of luck to Henry on the new cartridge and I mean that, sincerely. Have to point out, though, that new lever gun specific cartridges do not have a great track record for survival and popularity. Marlin and Winchester tried it over the years and a lot of those cartridges are pretty much dead in the water, now. Hope Henry has better luck.

[Mr. Neutron]

Best of luck to Henry on the new cartridge and I mean that, sincerely. Have to point out, though, that new lever gun specific cartridges do not have a great track record for survival and popularity. Marlin and Winchester tried it over the years and a lot of those cartridges are pretty much dead in the water, now. Hope Henry has better luck.

Ammo for my Buddy's Winchester '94 Big Bore immediately comes to mind. It uses the .375 Winchester cartridge. We once had to make cases from cut down .30-30 cases to feed that gun; loaded factory ammo is almost non-existent around here.......

Added in EDIT: That .375 Winchester cartridge is a straight-wall case, and as far as I know, is like North Country Gal said; mainly meant for lever rifles.

Maybe some states' ammo restrictions to straight walled cartridges could sorta help the new round out? Still as Vaquero said, kind of a re-invented wheel, but be nice if it worked out financially for them involved.....

[TraderVic]

Hmmm, FWIW - Remington has a poor track record of supporting their new cartridges. Just a few examples would be 6mm Rem, 260 Rem for starters..
Maybe the new Remington ammunition company (Federal, etc) would be different (??).

[Sir Henry]

I didn’t think the .17HMR had a snowballs chance of surviving. I’m hoping the new Henry caliber will make it.

[5shot]

I wondered why Henry hasn't chambered the .357 Max in a lever. I suppose if they did customer service would be getting complaints from people that tried to cycle standard .357's through the Max rifle? Reaming a standard .357 chamber to .357 Max was the reason I bought a second .357 H015...that and the fact that it had really nice wood. Then an internet search for brass caused that idea to go out the window.
The reasoning for a cartridge like the .360 in straightwall areas is understandable and I hope it works for Henry. Some other cartridges that come to mind are .307, .356 and .375 Win or .308 and .338 Marlin or maybe .30 TC . Try finding any of them at the local shop. The fact that this .360 has .358" bullets is a plus for handloaders and it would also be a bonus if cases could readily be formed from some other plentiful brass.

[North Country Gal]

I agree about the Max. It was a great cartridge. After Ruger and Dan Wesson dropped the Max in their revolvers, Contender fans grabbed the Max and fell in love with it. I shot the Max in a Contender back on the day and really enjoyed it. You could load it up hot and get 44 mag country performance without the recoil. Of course, now the Contender is gone, too.

Another cartridge that was rescued by the Contender was the 7-30 Waters, which is simply a 30-30 necked down to 7mm. Winchester introduced it in their Model 94 for a couple years in the mid 70s and then dropped it like a rock. Contender fans jumped all over it and it's still popular with those who still shoot Contenders. It was a little hotter than needed for silhouette, but I enjoyed many a fine range session shooting it in a Contender.

In fact, all of the classic lever gun cartages were popular in the Contender, especially the 30-30, 35 Rem and the 45-70. The Contender is history, now, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone still shooting a Contender shooter tries to have one barreled in the new Buckhammer.

[BigAl52]

Im like the max lovers. I cant figure out why its being ignored. Its a perfect levergun round. I dont like the rimless case of the legend. I have a contender in a 357 max. Nobody knows the max better than Mike Bellem. He also rechambers the Henry SS to the max. I wish Henry the best but its a shame the max is being ignored.

[Vaquero]

I wondered why Henry hasn't chambered the .357 Max in a lever. I suppose if they did customer service would be getting complaints from people that tried to cycle standard .357's through the Max rifle? Reaming a standard .357 chamber to .357 Max was the reason I bought a second .357 H015...that and the fact that it had really nice wood. Then an internet search for brass caused that idea to go out the window.
The reasoning for a cartridge like the .360 in straightwall areas is understandable and I hope it works for Henry. Some other cartridges that come to mind are .307, .356 and .375 Win or .308 and .338 Marlin or maybe .30 TC . Try finding any of them at the local shop. The fact that this .360 has .358" bullets is a plus for handloaders and it would also be a bonus if cases could readily be formed from some other plentiful brass.

From what I've gathered in the last day or so is that it is based off the 30-30....
If that is true, then it's like the 30-35 Shorty, or a 30-35 spl...

RP

[5shot]

From what I've read it's possible to make .350 Legend cases from .223 but more trouble than it's worth. If the .360 is based on .30/30 and it would be a simple matter of sizing, trimming and fireforming that would be great. Unless, somebody got the bright idea of making the case head smaller? Then you'd have to chuck up each case in a lathe and remove .020" or so from each rim? Since Henry already chambers the .30/30 and .38/55 they probably left it as is so they wouldn't have to alter the bolt face? I wonder if Henry will announce this creation at the shot show.

[Mike_S]

I am looking forward to the BBX in 360 BHMR. If Henry made the 35 REM in BBX, I'd have it and not think twice about the 360, but such is not the case.

I am a huge fan of 35s, love my BBX 357M, used to have a 35 REM I really enjoyed and hunted with it all the time in PA, once I sold it for some stupid reason, I realized shortly after how much I missed it.

[leverjc]

I am wondering about how long a wait it will be before there are 360 rifles in the hands of the consumer. It seems people are having trouble finding Henry rifles that are already cataloged. They have also brought out their new semi 9 out. I would think that even though the 9 will be coming off a completely different line it seems like Henry is very backed up with their ability to build what they are making now.

Does anybody have any info on when SAMII will accept the 360 round, are there any other manufacturers getting ready to make guns in the 360 and when will the ammo hit the shelves.

[Vaquero]

I am wondering about how long a wait it will be before there are 360 rifles in the hands of the consumer. It seems people are having trouble finding Henry rifles that are already cataloged. They have also brought out their new semi 9 out. I would think that even though the 9 will be coming off a completely different line it seems like Henry is very backed up with their ability to build what they are making now.

Does anybody have any info on when SAMII will accept the 360 round, are there any other manufacturers getting ready to make guns in the 360 and when will the ammo hit the shelves.

I agree about they can't keep up now.
If the cal. takes off, I wouldn't be surprised if Ruger/Marlin didn't introduce one.

RP

[Stray Cat]

I found the link below that provides some pre-production info on the rifle and the cartridge. After witnessing the knock down capability of the 350 Legend on whitetails, the 360 BHMR has a lot to live up to.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/360-buckhammer/

[Mags]

From the Remmington website.

Introduced in 2023 by Remington Ammunition and Henry Rifles, 360 Buckhammer is a brand-new SAAMI accepted cartridge. A straight wall cartridge 360 BHMR is a rimmed round designed for lever-action rifles.