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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by BigAl52 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:37 pm

Had a Uberti in 44-40 once. Bought a mould to cast some 215 gr RNFP for it as recommended by Mike Venturino in shooting Leverguns of the old west. Lubed the bullets with SPG lube which is a special lube designed for BP shooting. Loaded the 44-40 with about 38 grains of 3f if I remember correctly. Those loads would shoot one ragged hole at 25 yards off the bench. It was alot of fun. But the most fun I had was watchin other people watch me as I levered through a tube full of those rounds. The noise and the smoke was something totally different from smokeless.
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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by Rifletom » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:25 pm

BigAl52 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:37 pm
Had a Uberti in 44-40 once. Bought a mould to cast some 215 gr RNFP for it as recommended by Mike Venturino in shooting Leverguns of the old west. Lubed the bullets with SPG lube which is a special lube designed for BP shooting. Loaded the 44-40 with about 38 grains of 3f if I remember correctly. Those loads would shoot one ragged hole at 25 yards off the bench. It was alot of fun. But the most fun I had was watchin other people watch me as I levered through a tube full of those rounds. The noise and the smoke was something totally different from smokeless.
Geez Al, that must have been a hoot! Wish I could have seen that.

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:44 pm

Found this...
https://www.eabco.com/Muzzleloader04.htm

Noteworthy...

Our wrapped, sub caliber brush (in my case would be a .45 caliber brush) eliminates the problem of the cleaning jag getting stuck in the barrel when swabbing the bore between shots.
1. Swab bore with a "Seasoning" patch to clean.
2. Swab with a dry patch to remove excess lube.
3. Load muzzleloader powder, bullet, and prime.
4. Repeat after each shot for superb accuracy.

Problem solved.

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by fortyshooter » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:11 pm

Well that was one great shot RR ! Always something to be learned on a new weapon. Can you order Ballistol directly and have it shipped to your home? I usually get the 6oz aerosol cans plus keep the larger spray pump can on hand too.

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:23 pm

Have not seen it much except where I bought the rifle. Will check it out.

About $30 for a 6 oz can on Amazon.ca....yikes

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:49 am

RR
Is it necessary to swab between shots with triple 7 powder
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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:55 am

No idea. Maybe not?

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by fortyshooter » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:01 am

RanchRoper wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:23 pm
Have not seen it much except where I bought the rifle. Will check it out.

About $30 for a 6 oz can on Amazon.ca....yikes
Add on shipping cost must be the killer. I can get the 6 oz. spray cans for 8.95 at local farm supply store.

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by JEBar » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:31 am

RanchRoper wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:44 pm
Found this...
https://www.eabco.com/Muzzleloader04.htm

4. Repeat after each shot for superb accuracy.

Problem solved.

OK, right up front, my only knowledge in this area is based on decades old experience .... it may well have no validity today .... granted we weren't doing long range, precision shooting .... when hunting or shooting all day with our black powder club (longest shots were 75 or so yards, most 50 yards of less) we didn't clean the barrels of our 50 caliber, black powder rifles after each shot .... nor did we do so after firing each cylinder of shots in our Navy 44 .... I've never read of such cleaning practices by mountain men, buffalo hunters or any other frontier shooters .... we used FFF black powder .... for all day shoots we would run a cleaning and follow with a lube patch when we took a break for a meal .... when hunting we would load in the morning and if we didn't fire during the day, the next morning we would fire, reload and go hunting .... that was specially true when hunting in rainy weather .... if there is a black powder club in your area, it might pay you to contact them and spend some time watching or otherwise exchanging info with them

I can see some validity in seasoning the barrel of a new rifle but historically I doubt they spent much time doing so ...

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Re: Frontier .50 Nov 22nd, pre-1840...

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:09 am

I’ll get a routine down after awhile and adjust accordingly. It’s all new to me. Seems like a shooter though. :)

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