Need high comb on Golden Boy

[Bruce in WV]

I need a high comb on my GB to use a scope and have a decent cheek weld. I would appreciate suggestions (maybe with pictures).
This one looks promising: anybody using it?
https://www.accu-riser.com/pages/Cheek-Pad-Gallery.html
https://www.accu-riser.com/precision-lace-on-cheek-pad/
Thanks

[JEBar]

first, welcome to our forum .... delighted to have you join us .... do hope you will choose to read and post often .... they ain't cheap but I do know that Lohman ===> https://lohmangunsmith.com/photo-gallery/# does make custom stocks for some Henry rifles .... looking foward to following your search .... be sure to follow the link below to where you may add yours to our community's total

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 59#p145959

[Sir Henry]

Welcome to the forum. That leather riser looks like it would do the trick. Better than most I’ve seen. The custom wood stocks looks better although it doesn’t look like it rises as much.

[John E Davies]

Could you install a Varmint Express stock? I have no idea about the cost. I think adding straps and pads to a lever action looks bad.

Or just trade your gun in for one of these....

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John Davies
Spokane WA

[Bruce in WV]

Getting this rifle ready to shoot is a special deal for me.
This Henry Golden Boy 17HMR is one I'm holding for my grand nephew.
It was my brother's favorite rifle, and when he died 12 years ago he asked me to keep it for his grandson. The grandson is coming of age and I want him to enjoy using it in the configuration his grandfather left it in. But the drop at heel is too much without a riser of some sort to shoot correctly. Working on that right now so he can have it for Christmas.
BTW , it is missing the rear sight. I asked the CS folks for the part # and price, and they're sending it gratis. Wow! Sure sets a high standard for other makers! Thanks HenryUSA.
There was another thread that said that the Varmint Express stock wouldn't fit; I'm new to these rifles, so I have pay attention to to you all.

[Sir Henry]

The stocks are not interchangeable with the H001 series. I tried scoping mine and realized the rise has huge. So huge when shouldered your trigger finger seemed way to low and ackward. I don’t think they were ever meant to be scoped. Yet the original Henry was sometimes scoped with a Malcolm. I have one on a H001 Frontier and it’s a blast to shoot. Just not very user friendly.

The leather one you posted looked like it was high enough and that is where most fail. If you get one that one looks to be the best.

Let us know what you decide and post a picture.

[Sir Henry]

What scope are you putting on it? That can make a big difference in suggestions and comments. The forum has a few members that have scoped GB they just haven’t shown up.

[North Country Gal]

Bruce, with you all the way to make that GB work for your grandnephew. I vote for the add on cheek riser so as not to alter the gun, permanently. It may look out of place, but it's not something I'd worry about. Go for it.

As for that excessive drop on the Henry Golden series, keep in mind that this is not a design flaw on Henry's part. It's Henry staying true to the tradition of some of those early lever guns. In the mid 1800s, the head held high and proud was still a commonly used shooting position, much of that inherited from the muzzleloader days. In this style of shooting, the head was not supposed to be bent or lowered to the stock or the upper body bent downward in any way to meet the gun as you raised it to your shoulder. This was considered to be bad form. Thus there was no such thing in this style of shooting as a cheek weld. In fact, the face didn't make contact with the stock at all. Rather the stock design was intended for the gun to place the sights in the shooters line of sight without having to bend or lower the head, keeping the back ramrod stiff and straight. Then, too, snap shooting - bringing the rifle up quickly and firing immediately - was very commonly used for hunting and this style rifle fit that type of technique.

Of course, this seems completely foreign and awkward to us, now, when we try to apply our current shooting position to such a gun design. Check some paintings of folks shooting in those bygone days and you'll see some of them using it. If you buy one of the GB Henrys, my advice is to appreciate the history of that design and if you don't like that style shooting, just do a mod as Bruce is doing. The other option, of course, would be to go to the more "modern" steel versions.

[Bruce in WV]

What scope are you putting on it? That can make a big difference in suggestions and comments. The forum has a few members that have scoped GB they just haven’t shown up.

My brother has a Nikon Buckmaster 4x in the factory cantilever mount on it.

EDC30344-A4FE-453A-8D8F-EC6E5C4D9655 by Bruce, on Flickr

[BigAl52]

Welcome to the Forum Bruce. Nice you are carrying out the wish so the boy can have his fathers gun.

[John E Davies]

Here is a suggestion.... rather than add a tall cheek rest, swap out the scope for a 1x red dot sight. That will be much easier for a young lad to see and he won't have to clamp down his face onto the stock, since there is no parallax and unlimited eye relief. It would allow that "head up" shooting position. I have two of these and for the money (sale price) they are hard to beat.

https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy- ... 648&sr=8-2

You can wait until the price drops, you should be able to get one for about $60. Sign up here and they will send a price alert:

https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B00200E0HM

That would allow him to enjoy his legacy. As he grows and shows interest in shooting, consider getting him a rifle more suitable for distance work, say a CZ 457 bolt action gun. The Golden Boy in .17 HMR is a flat shooter for sure - he won't have to worry about holdover - but I bet the accuracy is average, at best.

John Davies
Spokane WA

[Sir Henry]

...... the head held high and proud was still a commonly used shooting position, much of that inherited from the muzzleloader days. In this style of shooting, the head was not supposed to be bent or lowered to the stock or the upper body bent downward in any way to meet the gun as you raised it to your shoulder. This was considered to be bad form. Thus there was no such thing in this style of shooting as a cheek weld. In fact, the face didn't make contact with the stock at all. Rather the stock design was intended for the gun to place the sights in the shooters line of sight without having to bend or lower the head, keeping the back ramrod stiff and straight. Then, too, snap shooting - bringing the rifle up quickly and firing immediately - was very commonly used for hunting and this style rifle fit that type of technique........

I never knew that. It changes my perspective.

[JEBar]

As for that excessive drop on the Henry Golden series, keep in mind that this is not a design flaw on Henry's part. It's Henry staying true to the tradition of some of those early lever guns. In the mid 1800s, the head held high and proud was still a commonly used shooting position, much of that inherited from the muzzleloader days. In this style of shooting, the head was not supposed to be bent or lowered to the stock or the upper body bent downward in any way to meet the gun as you raised it to your shoulder. This was considered to be bad form. Thus there was no such thing in this style of shooting as a cheek weld. In fact, the face didn't make contact with the stock at all. Rather the stock design was intended for the gun to place the sights in the shooters line of sight without having to bend or lower the head, keeping the back ramrod stiff and straight. Then, too, snap shooting - bringing the rifle up quickly and firing immediately - was very commonly used for hunting and this style rifle fit that type of technique.

I knew that the head held high style of shooting was the norm during era when armies in block formation stood and fired at each other .... I wasn't aware that it held on until the mid 1800's .... thanks for the info ..

[North Country Gal]

I suspect that style of shooting took a big hit in the Civil War when troops behind barricades kept their heads low. Just guessing, of course. I think it also had its fans in the muzzleloading days on the frontier. If you look at some of those original Pennsylvania and Kentucky flintlocks, they had a lot of drop at the comb by our current standards.

Personally, I think Henry would sell more brass models if they "modernized" those models to have the same stock design as the steel models, but that's just my opinion. I'm not expecting a call from Henry anytime soon, asking for my advice.

[Sir Henry]

Henry made a Brasslite receiver cover for the H001 however it wasn’t very popular. This cover is on a Frontier wearing a Malcolm scope. This setup isn’t very comfortable to shoot but it’s still fun.

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You can see in this picture the tangs are different so the stocks are not interchangeable.

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[Bruce in WV]

Excellent info about head position from the old days. Here's a picture of Annie Oakley showing how it was done.

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[Bruce in WV]

Here is a suggestion.... rather than add a tall cheek rest, swap out the scope for a 1x red dot sight.

Putting a red mini red dot sight, like one of the Holosuns or RMRs, would be a piece of cake using the rear sight dovetail with an adapter, low and easy to see. There are even less expensive options, more appropriate on a light use rifle, like what you linked to. Save the scope for another rifle he can pick on his own. Good suggestion...

[North Country Gal]

Great pic, thanks Bruce.

Hey, if you want a dovetail scope mount to add a mini red dot, check out the Skinner site,http://www.skinnersights.com/scope_mounts_31.html under Dovetail Scope Mount. I bought a couple and it works great with something like the Burris Fastfire or the very affordable Bushnell TRS -25. Here's the Skinner with the Bushnell TRS-2 redo dot on a couple of 22s

[The Wiz]

Welcome!

[Rifletom]

Welcome to the Henry forum Bruce. Thinking the red dot may be the way to go. Do like your project with that rifle. Very nice.