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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:59 pm

Here's the Beretta (or parts thereof)...

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The 'upper receiver', bolt, recoil rod, and spring come off as a unit, at the push of a button. Then, push another button, and the bolt, rod, and spring are released from the 'upper'.

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The 'lower', made from 1/8" plate and blocks, contains the trigger bits, hammer, and magazine well/release. The trigger is adjustable for pull weight. The barrel is 23.5", The sight is set for 50 metres, with flip-up leafs for 75, and 100 metres.

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:32 am

It was designed for easy field stripping/cleaning...even has a groove machined into the tang for guiding a cleaning rod. Genius. This rifle may be made in Italy, but it smells like Sauerkraut.
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Now for the sadness...I may need to read a few pages of bandit's chapter on buttplate re-construction with Acraglas...

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Fri May 01, 2020 4:24 pm

Got it back together for a function check. I figured it would be a high velocity kind of .22 by design...boy, was I wrong. Function was perfect with standard velocity, and it even cycled 9 out of 10 CCI Quiets (@ 710fps)! Color me impressed. That's close enough that I took it back apart to polish the recoil/guide rod, and the pocket in the bolt where the spring rides. Gotta see if I can improve on that 9/10, then switch back to some standards to see how accurate it is.

Further research shows that the Super Sport is an offspring of the Walther designed semi-auto-bolt action Olimpia target/trainer (kind of figured that), and originally came with a 19 mm at 50 metres (~.75" @ 55 yards) guarantee. Interesting...

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sat May 02, 2020 10:59 am

Polishing didn't quite give it the boost it needed for the quiets, but it was worth a try. So, I set up a target to see where it was going to hit with standards...looks like the rear sight needs a slight adjustment to the right. Considering my struggles with open sights, once again, I'm really impressed with this little rifle (I shouldn't call it little...it's 42 1/2" long, and nearly 8lbs).

This is the first 5 shots on paper, at 25 yards, standing, with the fore-end on a sandbag. The rounds used were CCI Standard Velocity. The one flier was 100% me...I adjusted while trying to see my hits...couldn't believe I was making one hole with open sights.
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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sat May 02, 2020 11:10 am

Snapped a few quick pics while I was out there...

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by bandit1250 » Sat May 02, 2020 12:51 pm

Hi roddy, That Beretta looks to be a well made rifle. I like the checkering on it real well. Don't lose the mag it would cost you about what some cheaper rifles cost. Beretta and Tikka mags are crazy prices after production of the rifle stops even "IF" you ever find one. Beretta USA is terrible for parts but maybe Canadian is better.
The butt plate shouldn't be to bad to repair. I would maybe screw it to a piece of wood or metal show you have a flat surface to start building from. If using wood place teflon tape or something the Acra- glas won't stick to. Metal just use a good paste wax like Johnson's to release on the metal. Built it in steps and not all at once. When you are getting to the final build make it a little bigger than needed to work it down to the contour and size of your plate. The Acra- glas usually won't match the shade of the plate after sanding and may need the entire plate painted to get a uniform color. Use a paint for plastic in satin or gloss to suit you. It is not bad if you go in steps. I have repaired quite a few older Remington plates and no one knew the difference. The Marlin I just did you could not see the repair after painting the entire plate. The hard part with the Marlin it needed the back checkered to match the factory checkering. The repair did show when I tried a coat of Tru-oil on it. So I sanded the edge very lightly with scotch brite and cleaned the entire plate with denatured alcohol and then painted it. Just don't for get to use some kind of release agent on what you screw it to or you will have to leave them glued together for on your stock. :shock: :lol: Mix the Acra-glas a full 3 minutes like it says and add the black die from the package when mixing. Good luck and take care. Johnny

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sat May 02, 2020 1:20 pm

Thanks for the tips. The buttstock has a noticeable curve where the plate screws on...I'll have to account for that too. We sell Krylon 'Fusion' paint for plastic at work...I'll give some of that a try.

I like the checkering as well...I've always been partial to the French/Skip Line style.

I would like to find a spare magazine...the Rifle originally shipped with a 10-round and a 5-round magazine. The 5-round sits flush, so I'd like to get one of those if I can find one. I have found Western Gun Parts to be pretty good for having/finding odd, or long-discontinued stuff.

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Wed May 06, 2020 7:19 pm

Three more 'old' .22s followed me home today...2 BRNO 581 semis (1961 and 1962 production), and a Winchester 94/22. I haven't dated the Winchester yet, but it is an XTR, so probably later in production. I'll get some pics up as I get them torn down and cleaned.

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sat May 09, 2020 10:27 pm

The BRNOs are cleaned up and back together. They are having some FTL issues, but I think I've figured out what has to be done. I'll re-visit that once the 9422 is off the table...

For now, here's a pic of the little BRNOs...I call them Thing 1 and Thing 2.

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 am

Ever read the Mr. Mercedes trilogy by Stephen King? :shock:
roddy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 10:27 pm
For now, here's a pic of the little BRNOs...I call them Thing 1 and Thing 2.
H006M BBB .357 - H001 Classic .22LR - Uberti/Taylors & Co. SmokeWagon .357 5.5" - Uberti/Taylors & Co. RanchHand .22LR 5.5" - Colt King Cobra Carry 2" - Colt Official Police 38spl 4"

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sun May 10, 2020 8:25 am

CT_Shooter wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 am
Ever read the Mr. Mercedes trilogy by Stephen King? :shock:
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Sat May 09, 2020 10:27 pm
For now, here's a pic of the little BRNOs...I call them Thing 1 and Thing 2.
No, I haven't. I've read a lot of his work, but couldn't get through the 'Gunslinger' series of books, and never went back.

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Post by CT_Shooter » Sun May 10, 2020 9:33 am

Yeah. That one tripped me up, too. Thing One and Thing Two play prominent roles in the Mr. Mercedes books, which is outstanding storytelling.

Great work on those rifles! I've enjoyed watching your projects. Thanks for sharing them with us.
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No, I haven't. I've read a lot of his work, but couldn't get through the 'Gunslinger' series of books, and never went back.
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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Thu May 14, 2020 2:25 pm

I've got both BRNOs functioning as they should. It turned out to be a follower issue in the magazines. 50+ years of use had caused some excess clearance between the 'legs' of the follower, and the inside of the magazine. This allowed the follower to rock ahead and back, changing the angle of the round waiting to be chambered (usually dropping it in the rear...too low for the bolt to pick it up). Opening the legs on the follower by about .060" cured them both.

On to this one...

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Fri May 15, 2020 8:45 pm

A Canadian Industries Limited model 470. The more I handle this one, the more I like it. The wide finger-grooved fore-end is flat bottomed, and sits nicely in my big paws. It has some heft, but is well balanced, and feels tight (especially tight, considering it's a take-down design).

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It had some minor rust/pitting on the top of the barrel...I cleaned it up as best I could for now, applied some cold blue, and a good rub with oil to keep it from getting any worse.

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Take down for cleaning is simple...just loosen the large screw on the bottom (after removing the small locking screw), and pull out the barrel/fore-end.

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If this one is a shooter (it's built by Anschutz, so I'm allowed to hope, right?), I intend to go into more detail as I tear it down for a proper re-finishing.
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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sat May 16, 2020 12:11 am

1962 Winchester Model 61...S, L, LR.
This one was in pretty respectable condition to begin with, only needing a strip and thorough cleaning...

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Despite the rifle being late enough in production to come with a factory dove-tailed receiver, someone felt the need to drill/tap for weaver mounts...

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If the holes are there, might as well use 'em...I got this old Weaver B6 for $50. It came with a tip-off mount, attached to an Armscor/Squires Bingham 20P. I'll save the tip-off mount for another project. One of my local shops had the correct # 13 and #19 bases, and Vintage Gun Scopes had the old 3/4" top-mount rings...these things are getting hard to find.

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Post by roddy » Sat May 16, 2020 2:19 pm

The scope, like most of these old 3/4" Weavers, needed a good internal cleaning. They are not 'airtight', and tend to collect a lot of dust over the years. There are 5 dust collecto...err...lenses in this one, that once cleaned, offer a pretty clear picture. I really like the thin wire crosshairs on these old scopes...they work great for .22s.
The thin profile and blued steel looks 'right' on classic rimfires...

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by markiver54 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:50 pm

Very nice Roddy, I like the rifle and overall setup!
Another fine job.
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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Sat May 16, 2020 6:33 pm

markiver54 wrote:
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Very nice Roddy, I like the rifle and overall setup!
Another fine job.
Thanks...now I just need to sight it in. These old slide/pump action .22s are a joy to shoot. I also have my Dad's Remington 121, an FN (Browning) Trombone, and an H003TM. The gentleman I got the BRNOs from had a really nice Winchester Model 62 for sale as well...i considered it, but really prefer the internal hammer design of the Model 61.

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Post by roddy » Sun May 17, 2020 7:02 pm

1982 Winchester Model 9422 XTR. This one was in decent shape as well...only needing a strip/clean, and couple of light scuffs polished out of the finish on the furniture. There is a nice stick of wood hiding under all that stain and gloss...

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Re: Another one on the table

Post by roddy » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:40 am

Wow! Time flies (even when you're not havin' fun)...hard to believe it's been almost 5 months since I posted here. The last 7-8 months have been a challenge, to say the least. First, the "Kung Flu" hit, Dad got sick, and then school went online...2 months before the end of a 2-year college course.

I'm 50 years old, and have always worked with my hands...I don't play well with computers. Despite the struggle with technology (and losing an average ~5%), my grades going in were good enough that I was still able to make 'Dean's List' with a 91 GPA. At least Dad got to see that...

Dad...turns out it wasn't Covid. He was diagnosed with lung cancer, and given 2 months to live at the end of February. He passed on August 28th. We weren't able to have a celebration of life for him until last weekend, due to restrictions on group sizes. I'm gonna miss you, ya tough 'ol b@stard.

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