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Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by SD MEPPS » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:50 pm

Took my new Henry HOO9 30-30 out deer hunting a few days ago. It was a long, cold sit. Temps were in the teens in central NY that day. When I was done hunting for the day I removed the magazine tube and three rounds came out. I wondered why the fourth didn't come out so I figured I could cycle the action to remove the last two rounds. I didn't reinstall the magazine tube. Upon cycling the action the chambered round ejected and the lever stuck in the open position. I could no longer cycle the action. I could then see the round that remained in the magazine was partially out as if it was going to cycle but it didn't. Thinking about what I did I figured that since the tube wasn't installed that attributed to the jam.
I drove home and upon researching this online I see it's a fairly common issue with lever guns. I proceeded to remove the screw for the lever and I was able to then easily remove that stuck round.
I then watched videos on how the bolt can now be removed since the lever has been removed. For some reason though this bolt won't come out of the gun. I wanted to remove it thinking I could more thoroughly clean the gun. Seems as if the bolt is in contact with the hammer too much and won't pull out completely.
I called Henry and they told me to try to remove the bolt by holding the flipping the gun over and pulling on the bolt. I tried that and still can't remove it. The gun cycles ammo fine though.
Can someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong? Does it sound like there is a problem? I guess tomorrow I'll take a different gun out deer hunting. I was told that I can send it in at no charge so I just might have to do that.

Thanks for any info and advice.

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by Mistered » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:36 pm

I didn't reinstall the magazine tube.
Try this again and this time REINSTALL the mag tube.

I am thinking because you did not have the pressure from the spring in the tube on the rounds the last one was not pushed into the cartridge lift completely and became stuck.

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by GunnyGene » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:45 pm

SD MEPPS wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:50 pm
Took my new Henry HOO9 30-30 out deer hunting a few days ago. It was a long, cold sit. Temps were in the teens in central NY that day. When I was done hunting for the day I removed the magazine tube and three rounds came out. I wondered why the fourth didn't come out so I figured I could cycle the action to remove the last two rounds. I didn't reinstall the magazine tube. Upon cycling the action the chambered round ejected and the lever stuck in the open position. I could no longer cycle the action. I could then see the round that remained in the magazine was partially out as if it was going to cycle but it didn't. Thinking about what I did I figured that since the tube wasn't installed that attributed to the jam.
I drove home and upon researching this online I see it's a fairly common issue with lever guns. I proceeded to remove the screw for the lever and I was able to then easily remove that stuck round.
I then watched videos on how the bolt can now be removed since the lever has been removed. For some reason though this bolt won't come out of the gun. I wanted to remove it thinking I could more thoroughly clean the gun. Seems as if the bolt is in contact with the hammer too much and won't pull out completely.
I called Henry and they told me to try to remove the bolt by holding the flipping the gun over and pulling on the bolt. I tried that and still can't remove it. The gun cycles ammo fine though.
Can someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong? Does it sound like there is a problem? I guess tomorrow I'll take a different gun out deer hunting. I was told that I can send it in at no charge so I just might have to do that.

Thanks for any info and advice.
If you haven't watched the Henry Maintenance Video's for your H009 yet you should. There's 7 or 8 that cover everything you need to know about disassembly, assembly, lube, etc.

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... 009-h009b/
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by SD MEPPS » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:56 pm

GunnyGene wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:45 pm
SD MEPPS wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:50 pm
Took my new Henry HOO9 30-30 out deer hunting a few days ago. It was a long, cold sit. Temps were in the teens in central NY that day. When I was done hunting for the day I removed the magazine tube and three rounds came out. I wondered why the fourth didn't come out so I figured I could cycle the action to remove the last two rounds. I didn't reinstall the magazine tube. Upon cycling the action the chambered round ejected and the lever stuck in the open position. I could no longer cycle the action. I could then see the round that remained in the magazine was partially out as if it was going to cycle but it didn't. Thinking about what I did I figured that since the tube wasn't installed that attributed to the jam.
I drove home and upon researching this online I see it's a fairly common issue with lever guns. I proceeded to remove the screw for the lever and I was able to then easily remove that stuck round.
I then watched videos on how the bolt can now be removed since the lever has been removed. For some reason though this bolt won't come out of the gun. I wanted to remove it thinking I could more thoroughly clean the gun. Seems as if the bolt is in contact with the hammer too much and won't pull out completely.
I called Henry and they told me to try to remove the bolt by holding the flipping the gun over and pulling on the bolt. I tried that and still can't remove it. The gun cycles ammo fine though.
Can someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong? Does it sound like there is a problem? I guess tomorrow I'll take a different gun out deer hunting. I was told that I can send it in at no charge so I just might have to do that.

Thanks for any info and advice.
If you haven't watched the Henry Maintenance Video's for your H009 yet you should. There's 7 or 8 that cover everything you need to know about disassembly, assembly, lube, etc.

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... 009-h009b/

Thank you. I was unaware these videos existed. Just what I needed.


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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by Mags » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:03 pm

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What Mistered said for getting it unjammed.
As far as bolt removal, it won't slide out of the rifle entirely until the trigger assembly, the locking bolt and carrier are removed.
Details in Henry's disassembly video here https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... 009-h009b/

30-30 Trigger Assy.JPG
30-30 Locking Bolt.JPG
30-30 Carrier.JPG
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by SD MEPPS » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:15 pm

Mags wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:03 pm
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What Mistered said for getting it unjammed.
As far as bolt removal, it won't slide out of the rifle entirely until the trigger assembly, the locking bolt and carrier are removed.
Details in Henry's disassembly video here https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... 009-h009b/


30-30 Trigger Assy.JPG30-30 Locking Bolt.JPG30-30 Carrier.JPG
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Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I was searching youtube for videos on stuck lever, etc...Great info!

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by GunnyGene » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:26 pm

SD MEPPS wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:56 pm
GunnyGene wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:45 pm
ny info and advice.

If you haven't watched the Henry Maintenance Video's for your H009 yet you should. There's 7 or 8 that cover everything you need to know about disassembly, assembly, lube, etc.

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... 009-h009b/

Thank you. I was unaware these videos existed. Just what I needed.
Forgot to mention that all Henry centerfires will rub on the hammer during bolt removal. Normally all you need to do is hold the hammer down tight with one finger, while holding the rifle with your other hand, and with your 3rd hand pull the bolt out. Might need to wiggle the bolt some. ;)
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by GFK » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:56 pm

SD MEPPS wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:50 pm
I then watched videos on how the bolt can now be removed since the lever has been removed. For some reason though this bolt won't come out of the gun . . . Can someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong? Does it sound like there is a problem? . . I was told that I can send it in at no charge so I just might have to do that.
Sorry about your situation. I remove my bolt for every cleaning. I just remove the lever and pull the bolt out. I typically have the lever cocked midway. The bolt may be touching the hammer by then. Then, I remove the lever and pull the bolt out. You may have to hold the hammer down while pulling the bolt out. After removing the ejector spring, I clean the gun. I install everything in reverse order. I am surprise the bolt does not come out if you can cycle it. Is the breech open while you remove the lever?
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by deano5150 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:38 pm

The same thing happens to me when I forget to put the mag tube back in my Golden Boy 22LR after unloading. There will be one round in the chamber and one stuck in the bottom of the magazine.
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by Mags » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:02 am

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It doesn't in the .30-30. The pieces shown in the earlier above have to come out first.
GFK wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:56 pm
... I just remove the lever and pull the bolt out. ...
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by GFK » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:53 am

Mags wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:02 am
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It doesn't in the .30-30. The pieces shown in the earlier above have to come out first.
GFK wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:56 pm
... I just remove the lever and pull the bolt out. ...
Mags,
I have been using that method since I got my H009 (2017). I also recall someone posting a YouTube link that showed that method. From what I can tell, Henry's action is similar to Marlin's. And, I have 2 Marlins that I clean that way. But, give it a try and find out for yourself.
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by Mags » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:43 pm

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Already have. There have been at least 3 design revisions to the H009 so it is may be this can be done with some and not others.
GFK wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:53 am
Mags wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:02 am
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It doesn't in the .30-30. The pieces shown in the earlier above have to come out first.
GFK wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:56 pm
... I just remove the lever and pull the bolt out. ...
Mags,
I have been using that method since I got my H009 (2017). I also recall someone posting a YouTube link that showed that method. From what I can tell, Henry's action is similar to Marlin's. And, I have 2 Marlins that I clean that way. But, give it a try and find out for yourself.
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by GFK » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:23 pm

Mags wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:43 pm
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Already have. There have been at least 3 design revisions to the H009 so it is may be this can be done with some and not others.
GFK wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:53 am
Mags wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:02 am
.
It doesn't in the .30-30. The pieces shown in the earlier above have to come out first.
Mags,
I have been using that method since I got my H009 (2017). I also recall someone posting a YouTube link that showed that method. From what I can tell, Henry's action is similar to Marlin's. And, I have 2 Marlins that I clean that way. But, give it a try and find out for yourself.
Interesting.
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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by SD MEPPS » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:32 am

Thanks again for the replies everyone. I now know how to properly remove the bolt.

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by JEBar » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 am

does the action now work properly :?:

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by SD MEPPS » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:16 am

JEBar wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 am
does the action now work properly :?:
It’s working properly. I watched the videos but haven’t disassembled it yet to clean it.

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by JEBar » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:09 pm

SD MEPPS wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:16 am
It’s working properly. I watched the videos but haven’t disassembled it yet to clean it.
glad to hear that its working properly .... looking forward to your continued reports

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by SD MEPPS » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:24 pm

:cry:
JEBar wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:09 pm
SD MEPPS wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:16 am
It’s working properly. I watched the videos but haven’t disassembled it yet to clean it.
glad to hear that its working properly .... looking forward to your continued reports
Thank you.

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by JEBar » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:54 pm

SD MEPPS wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:16 am
It’s working properly. I watched the videos but haven’t disassembled it yet to clean it.

not to worry, after you've done it a time or two you won't have any concerns about the process

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Re: Lever Stuck Open H009 30 30

Post by GFK » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:57 pm

I agree. This is from a Marlin 336/1894 owner's manual. Even though the brand is different, the process is similar (just in case you want steps in your hand):

To Disassemble the Firearm for
Cleaning:
CAUTION: Lever action centerfire firearms
should NOT be disassembled beyond what is
described in this manual, except by the factory or a Marlin Authorized Repair Center.
WARNING! Unload the firearm before cleaning.
Look into the ejection port and visually check
the chamber and magazine to make sure
there are no cartridges in the firearm. Always
wear eye protection when handling, disassembling and assembling the firearm.
1. Always keep the firearm pointed in a
safe direction.
2. If the hammer is in the “At Rest” position, without touching the trigger
move the hammer with your thumb to
the first stageable position. See “Safe
Firearm Handling,” on page 10.
3. Engage the safety mechanism by
moving the safety button fully to the
shooter’s right. The red band will not
be visible.
4. Open the action by rotating the lever
down and forward until the bolt is
fully rearward.
5. Look into the ejection port, visually
check the chamber, loading port and
magazine for cartridges, ensuring the
firearm is completely unloaded. If the
firearm is not empty, see “To Unload
the Firearm” on page 14.
6. Remove the lever from the receiver by
moving the bolt forward (1/4 closed).
7. Remove the lever mounting screw
by turning the screw counterclockwise. See Picture 15.
8. Pull the lever down and remove
from the bolt assembly and receiver.
To Remove the Bolt Assembly:
9. With the lever removed, pull the bolt
assembly rearward from the receiver. See Picture 16.
10. With a pair of pliers, remove the
ejector from the receiver by lifting it
out through the ejection port.
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