First range day with 45-70

[KTK]

New H015 45-70. Shooting Remington core lokt 405gr.
I wanted to start at 50yds, and eventually move to 100.
Never made it to 100. At 50 (off a solid rest), it is grouping awesome. Holes almost touching, and got the windage dialed in great.
Problem came with the elevation. It was shooting way low, so I moved the rear sight up to adjust. Then I ran out of adjustment and I'm still 2.5" low at 50yds.
Not sure what to do, so I called Henry. The guy I spoke to was helpful. Turns out my front bead is the shortest one Henry makes. Only thing to do is send gun in. Not thrilled w that idea unless I absolutely have to.
Soooo, I called Skinner. Awesome dude named Rob had me measure front post, did some calculations, and hooked me up with a shorter one. On it's way now.
Not upset with Henry, or discouraged by this.
Things happen, and new guns have bugs to work out.
Any input appreciated (other than trying different ammo, it is grouping real nice).

[JEBar]

looking forward to hearing how well the Skinner front sight works out ... what was your impression of the rifle's recoil

[KTK]

looking forward to hearing how well the Skinner front sight works out ... what was your impression of the rifle's recoil

It isn't too bad. Less than a 3.5" turkey load.

[Shawn1974]

I have one of the early Rice Lake H010 .45-70's. I had the same problem with the ghost ring sight. It didn't have enough adjustment. I removed the ghost ring and installed a Williams FP336 receiver sight. Worked great!

[North Country Gal]

I've also had good luck with the Remington 405 grain factory ammo for both accuracy and for miler recoil. That's the good news. The bad news is the price of that stuff. Ouch!

Not surprised to hear about elevation issues with a 45-70. Just the nature of the beast with so many bullet choices and so many power levels. Might try some of the factory 300 or 325 grain loads and see if that helps.

[Ojaileveraction]

Don't think you could find a Williams receiver sight that fits but I would think about finding a better rear sight system.

I have one of the early Rice Lake H010 .45-70's. I had the same problem with the ghost ring sight. It didn't have enough adjustment. I removed the ghost ring and installed a Williams FP336 receiver sight. Worked great!

[ESquared]

Rob at Skinner is awesome, in my experience, and it sounds like he was the same in your case! As noted above, lots to consider as you move beyond 50 yds with the standard sights, so please keep us posted!

Congrats on a great first outing!

[fortyshooter]

When you get your new front sight on try some Hornady 325 gr. FTX ammo. A great round and use to be one of the lowest cost.
They pack a good punch too!

[Shawn1974]

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Don't think you could find a Williams receiver sight that fits but I would think about finding a better rear sight system.

The FP336 Williams sight does work on the early H010's... I am using one! Not sure if it works on later versions but the same screws that held the ghost ring on line up with the FP. It has precise click adjustments just like a scope. Kinda hard to see in this pic but it's there

[tractortad]

You could also grind your present factory sight down to shorten it - a couple of members have done that to their Henrys in order to get a narrower front sight post vice a larger bead...

[BigAl52]

I second Forty's idea with the Hornady ammo it shoots great out of my AW 45-70

[KTK]

Anyone know if the Skinner Express will fit on this rifle?

[ESquared]

looking forward to hearing how well the Skinner front sight works out ... what was your impression of the rifle's recoil

I don't see the Single Shots listed on Skinner's website, but that doesn't mean they don't make them. A quick call to Rob would clear that up, and I'm sure many would like to know as well.

[BigAl52]

I looked for the thread a little but couldnt find it right off but someone here just put a Skinner on there single shot using the rear sight dovetail or a barrel mount sight with the Lo Pro in it. Like Evan says give them a call. Just found this on there site
http://www.skinnersights.com/page_16.html

[Mistered]

Turns out my front bead is the shortest one Henry makes. Only thing to do is send gun in.

Henry does not 'make' sights - they use Marbles sights but regardless what did they expect to accomplish by having you send the gun in if they did not have a shorter front sight to install ?

Good to hear Skinner is helping you out however.

[tractortad]

Skinner Low-Pro rear/Lyman Globe 17A front on a Henry 44Mag Single Shot

Henry Single 44Mag Sight-in @ 25 yds.JPG (242.21 KiB) Viewed 2747 times

[Yornoc3]

With the front sight dovetailed into the barrel, it shouldn't be hard to change it out. My 45-70 shot OK with factory 300 grain rounds at 50 yards, but I never did "dial it in" since I intended to add a scope. For hunting I like the Hornady 250 grain Monoflex (copper) ammo, for its lower recoil and slightly flatter trajectory, but cheap it's not. It works, though . And it shoots to about the same point of aim at 50 yards as the 300 grain loads.

On another point, I had the same sight adjustment issue with my early model ghost ring peep H009 (30-30); Henry sent me a replacement XS rear sight, since that version's front sight is nonadjustable in the barrel band, which fixed it. I still might send that assembly to Skinner, to convert it to a dovetail, though, since I think I'd like a bead better than the post. But I'll give it a try, first.

[Rifletom]

tractortad, nice, simple set-up. Likin' that. How are you coping with all that heat this past weekend? Whew!

[BigAl52]

That tad he has all the cool stuff and he is the Single Shot King here I think he has about 3 or 4 of them.

[tractortad]

tractortad, nice, simple set-up. Likin' that. How are you coping with all that heat this past weekend? Whew!

Yea - it's been hot lately - mostly staying inside in the A/C and drinking lots of fluids when we work outside for a only a couple of hours at a time....