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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by MarkB » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:02 pm

I noticed the lever was half-way between a standard lever and a large loop lever.
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by John E Davies » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:05 pm

MarkB wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:02 pm
I noticed the lever was half-way between a standard lever and a large loop lever.
I noticed that too, as Goldilocks would say, it is a Just Right Lever.

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:11 am

A couple folks have wondered if the H012M walnut stock sets will fit on the X models. No, they won't for a couple reasons. Lever, and butt stock shapes are totally different, likewise the fore stock. That said, Henry might someday make a wood set for the X models, but they will likely cost a couple bills if they do.
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by Vaquero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:07 am

GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:11 am
A couple folks have wondered if the H012M walnut stock sets will fit on the X models. No, they won't for a couple reasons. Lever, and butt stock shapes are totally different, likewise the fore stock. That said, Henry might someday make a wood set for the X models, but they will likely cost a couple bills if they do.
Well then there's another reason I would Never purchase one.

I realize that Henry is not building rifles that appeal to us 60 YO's,
as we as a whole won't be in the market as long as the younger generation.

I wonder it the stocks from any other their rifles would fit the first sidegates?
As most of y'all know that I dislike those also. :roll:
God I wish they would produce a nice blued version of those with a plain or lightly checkered stock. :o
I guess they don't want me to own any more Henrys. ;) ;)

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by Chucksolo1 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:02 pm

My question is: Why? Why?

I bought my Henrys for the traditional look. I am disappointed that Henry would even contemplate this. It would have been nice if they made exact duplicates of the 1866 and 1873 lever guns.

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:05 pm

Vaquero wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:07 am
GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:11 am
A couple folks have wondered if the H012M walnut stock sets will fit on the X models. No, they won't for a couple reasons. Lever, and butt stock shapes are totally different, likewise the fore stock. That said, Henry might someday make a wood set for the X models, but they will likely cost a couple bills if they do.
Well then there's another reason I would Never purchase one.

I realize that Henry is not building rifles that appeal to us 60 YO's,
as we as a whole won't be in the market as long as the younger generation.

I wonder it the stocks from any other their rifles would fit the first sidegates?
As most of y'all know that I dislike those also. :roll:
God I wish they would produce a nice blued version of those with a plain or lightly checkered stock. :o
I guess they don't want me to own any more Henrys. ;) ;)

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by John E Davies » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:08 pm

Chucksolo1 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:02 pm
My question is: Why? Why?

I bought my Henrys for the traditional look. I am disappointed that Henry would even contemplate this. It would have been nice if they made exact duplicates of the 1866 and 1873 lever guns.
Some people are not like you, that is why. No need to get upset, just don;'t buy one.I love the guns with traditional brass and octagonal barrel, but for my needs they just don't work. Plus I would worry too much about damage.

Henry must think these will sell, and the responses I have seen on other gun forums (not so much the dedicated lever gun forums) is generally positive.

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by Vaquero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:20 pm

GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:05 pm
Vaquero wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:07 am
GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:11 am
A couple folks have wondered if the H012M walnut stock sets will fit on the X models. No, they won't for a couple reasons. Lever, and butt stock shapes are totally different, likewise the fore stock. That said, Henry might someday make a wood set for the X models, but they will likely cost a couple bills if they do.
Well then there's another reason I would Never purchase one.

I realize that Henry is not building rifles that appeal to us 60 YO's,
as we as a whole won't be in the market as long as the younger generation.

I wonder it the stocks from any other their rifles would fit the first sidegates?
As most of y'all know that I dislike those also. :roll:
God I wish they would produce a nice blued version of those with a plain or lightly checkered stock. :o
I guess they don't want me to own any more Henrys. ;) ;)

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I won't be buying anymore firearms from anyone. I've got what I've wanted, and the BBSC was the last one on the list. Besides, my wife told me that if I buy another gun, she gets a new Cadillac Escalade. Definite buzzkill there. :shock: :lol:
Gene, like yo I have all a man could really need, that sayin, I stumbled into a Bunch of reloading supplies for a 38-55.
So at some point I would like to find a shootable one or I just need to sell the supplies and move on.
Besides I would need another safe If I were to continue, and I don't really have room for one. :roll:
Hey, you ah 'em ah don't need any 38-55 stuff do ya? :lol:

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by BigAl52 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:27 pm

What 38-55 stuff do you have Randy?
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:50 pm

Vaquero wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:20 pm

Hey, you ah 'em ah don't need any 38-55 stuff do ya? :lol:

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by fortyshooter » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:46 pm

This is great news as it means Henry has the parts to now make the pistol caliber BB and BBS rifles with side gate....when they decide to!

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by Mags » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:48 pm

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That was my thinking too.
fortyshooter wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:46 pm
This is great news as it means Henry has the parts to now make the pistol caliber BB and BBS rifles with side gate....when they decide to!
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by JEBar » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:04 pm

fortyshooter wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:46 pm
This is great news as it means Henry has the parts to now make the pistol caliber BB and BBS rifles with side gate....when they decide to!
exactly .... I do believe that introducing side gates for pistol cartridges in their BBS and CCH lines will be a major hit for Henry

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by ESquared » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:56 pm

It strikes me as a relatively low risk testing of the waters in terms of where consumers will let the brand go.

It's not like many (any?) of us "core user" traditionalists are going to divest ourselves or our Henry inventory, and they're probably well aware that we'd likely not buy one anyway.

What it seems to be about is attempting to reach a new audience altogether, as has been pointed out: younger, with more more of a "tactical" bent to how they approach their shooting hobby. They're not hung up on aesthetics; in fact, they're used to "Frankenguns", as all the "kit" (and kit-like) MSRs demonstrate.

If it flops, so what? They're left holding most of the design work (as you all note above) to roll out pistol cartridge side-loaders, which wouldn't be a surprise to any of us.

Strikes me that it falls into the "you don't know if you don't try it" category of product/line extensions. And, let's face it, their "core users" are aging out...
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:10 pm

ESquared wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:56 pm
It strikes me as a relatively low risk testing of the waters in terms of where consumers will let the brand go.

It's not like many (any?) of us "core user" traditionalists are going to divest ourselves or our Henry inventory, and they're probably well aware that we'd likely not buy one anyway.

What it seems to be about is attempting to reach a new audience altogether, as has been pointed out: younger, with more more of a "tactical" bent to how they approach their shooting hobby. They're not hung up on aesthetics; in fact, they're used to "Frankenguns", as all the "kit" (and kit-like) MSRs demonstrate.

If it flops, so what? They're left holding most of the design work (as you all note above) to roll out pistol cartridge side-loaders, which wouldn't be a surprise to any of us.

Strikes me that it falls into the "you don't know if you don't try it" category of product/line extensions. And, let's face it, their "core users" are aging out...
Naming these "X" Model was probably a smart move also from a marketing standpoint. Something about "X" that appeals to a certain market. Although, I'd have probably gone with Full Semi-Levermatic. ;)
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by Vaquero » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:07 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by MarkB » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:21 am

While many here like the traditional wood and steel/brass rifles, I can see the X model being a truck/beater rifle for rough use where you don't really care about damaging the finish of the rifle plus you can add a light. I don't, personally, have a need for this one but I can see others getting one.
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Post by ESquared » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:37 am

"I'd have probably gone with Full Semi-Levermatic"

Very nice! Sounds a bit like a high-end kitchen appliance, but I like it!
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Re: New Henry X Models

Post by Mags » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:47 am

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Also something nostalgic about it. Like an ad one might see from the 1950s.

[update: I was curious to see if 'levermatic' was actually used at some point in time. Immediate web find, Marlin used the term in the 1950s]
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"I'd have probably gone with Full Semi-Levermatic"

Very nice! Sounds a bit like a high-end kitchen appliance, but I like it!
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