Any info known about a .45LC manufacturer?

[PT7]

Since someone suggested using <ammoseek.com>, I've been searching for 200gr .45LC ammo there. Just started to shoot .45LC caliber using my new T&C 1873 Cattleman revolver.

I've not heard of this manufacturer before: Choice Ammunition, USA-made ammo out of Montana. Found this 200gr cowboy action load there, and wondering if anyone has any information about it, or about the company?
https://choiceammunition.com/product/ne ... nd-loaded/

Thanks...PT7

[Mags]

There is a review here: https://www.americanhunter.org/articles ... mmunition/

Business info: https://app.mt.gov/madeinmontana/Business/Details/10991

[PT7]

Thanks for the links.

The AH article mostly focused on rifles, but the one paragraph on .45LC considered use in a revolver. Came close as the test ammo was 250gr and my initial choice would be the 200gr. The writer shot with a 7-1/2" Blackhawk. My 1873 is much smaller, 3-1/2" barrel. But the test gun was close to the new T&C revolver being shipped my way -- the top break Russian .45LC with a 6-1/2" barrel. I'd probably try the ammo in that revolver, too. Overall writer comments on this ammo build and the company seemed mostly positive, and was helpful stuff to my search.

The "Made in Montana" link was also interesting. Nothing negative about the ammo manufacturer at all. First time, however, I've seen such an eval that was made by a state's (Montana) Department of Commerce. That state web site also contained the warning that the "official" logo created by the state of Montana was illegal to use "without prior authorization." I see this logo posted on the Choice Ammunition web site, so there is that connection.

Like I said, interesting info. Appreciated the stuff I read here. I'm thinking I might give the manufacturer a call to ask a couple of specifics on the 200gr ammo I'm looking at. That might be an interesting "eval" also.....
PT7

[PT7]

After researching this ammo manufacturer, I decided to give them a call. Chatted with the Choice Ammunition rep, who also spoke with their ballistics tech about how I wanted to shoot, what revolvers I'm using, etc. I liked everything I heard from them. And since both the info/specs and Choice Ammo's CS were what I was looking for, I decided to order some hand-loaded .45LC from this Montana company.

Got the shipment late this week. Following are a couple of pics showing my entire .45LC stock. The HSM ammo, which I've already shot with my 1873 Cattleman, is 200gr RNFP Cowboy action; the Choice Ammo rounds are the same, 200gr RNFP Cowboy action. The Choice ammo is rated at 950fps; the rep looked up the HMS spec for me, and it's rated at 750fps. If I and my two revolvers like this hand-loaded ammo, I think I would stick with this company -- their CS is that good. Next chance to get to the range will be a little later next week. Heading to central KS to visit a long-time friend; plan to be there from Mon thru Wed.

My son-in-law calls both brass and cartridges "GOLD." I thought of that when I looked at the cannister of the Choice Ammo I just received. It is good-looking ammo; almost appears to be gold in the cannister.

BTW, since I'm always looking at words and their meanings, I found the historical definition of "cannister" to be this:
{Cannister: small bullets packed in cases that fit the bore of an artillery piece or gun; e.g. the historical expression,
"Another deadly volley of canister"}

Fits what the gold is, doesn't it?!?
PT7

Entire stock of .45LC

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"GOLD"

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[RanchRoper]

Wow, sure wish I could buy a bucket of 45 Colt up here in anti-gun land....I like your stash, looks like you are ready to walk the streets of Tombstone.

[PT7]

Hey, RR,

Some of the pics you've posted of your ammo stash looks like you're pretty well-stocked already. I think in one of your posts you said something like "I own most of the .45LC in Canada." That's quite a few ammo cans worth!

So you've now seen my entire .45LC stash in the photos. It is quite small, but probably won't be much larger at any given time. This caliber is a little spendy. So I'll just send this "gold" downrange a little at a time; probably close to your expended rounds per your range visit. I'll actually don't mind leaving the range still wishing I brought more ammo with me. That simply means I'm having a good time of it!

I don't think the streets of Tombstone is the place for me to go...a little far away. I'd just mosey the short trail ride southwest from my MO Northland homestead, and walk the streets of Lawrence, KS. There was a lot of six-gun and rifle action there in the early 1860s!!

PT7

Wow, sure wish I could buy a bucket of 45 Colt up here in anti-gun land....I like your stash, looks like you are ready to walk the streets of Tombstone.

[RanchRoper]

I do have a good stockpile, but always on the lookout for more. Bulk 45 Colt up here is non-existent so far. I know, I know....reload.

[JEBar]

Bulk 45 Colt up here is non-existent so far. I know, I know....reload.

just had a thought, have you considered loading your own

sorry, couldn't resist ..

OK, another thought, reloading could give you something worth doing while sitting inside looking out the window at bales of snow covered hay ...

[Mags]

OK, another thought, reloading could give you something worth doing while sitting inside looking out the window at bales of snow covered hay ...

... while sitting on that nice open air deck next to the (electric) wood stove.

[PT7]

Not long ago there was some heavy-duty chatting in a couple of threads about reloading, RR. I had the impression that you would keep on using manufactured, new ammo, and not reload. Still, most important is what you want to do.

I do remember, however, that going through those discussions with you and everyone, I made my final decision NOT to reload. I know there are pluses that go along with reloading. But I did a very thoughtful plus/minus evaluation of what it takes to reload, particularly in regard to "wanting to and being comfortable" taking on this part of firearms ownership. I'm not there, and won't ever be. So when I made the decision, the "tension" was gone. I'm good.

That worked for me. Of course, what works for you is the best for you. Most of the reloaders I know really enjoy doing it, and realize valid benefits over buying new ammo. The earlier reloading threads helped me out with my decision; it was a solid string of many excellent comments, and I'm glad to have participated. Good stuff on our Forum from knowledgeable Folk!!

Not least, I also wish "you could buy a bucket of 45 Colt up there." Yet living in that beautiful Cow Country seems to be a real plus from my perspective. Wish I could see it in person someday.

PT7

[RanchRoper]

Ya I won't be reloading anytime soon. Will stick to factory ammo for now.

[Ozarkridgerunner]

Wow, sure wish I could buy a bucket of 45 Colt up here in anti-gun land....I like your stash, looks like you are ready to walk the streets of Tombstone.

Howdy RR. I was just wondering about the laws and regulations on ammo purchases up in your Country. I figured by your response to PT7 that ammo purchases and quantities must be pretty closely regulated. Does the same go for shipped purchases or can you even order ammo out of the USA ? Just curious.

[RanchRoper]

We cannot buy guns or ammo across the border.
Supply on 45 Colt is not bad but dependent on US supply to dealers mostly. I buy most of mine online from Canadian sources. Cannot ship ammo by mail just Courier.

[Ozarkridgerunner]

Hello PT7. I recently purchased a SA Cimmaron in .45. Love the gun. Smooth action and shoots great. Seems to really like the HSM 250 gr Cowboy loads. Concerning your inquiry on 200 gr loads , Magtech makes an excellent cowboy action load. Have shot their brand in many other calibers also . High quality consistent performance. Just wanted to share that with you for another ammo option

[PT7]

Appreciate the info, Ozark. I actually spent some time on the phone today with two different people about .45LC ammo. First guy was the gunsmith at Taylor's & Company in VA. They are the U.S. service arm for Uberti, Italy. Found out that Uberti recommends a .45LC bullet with a maximum of 875fps for my revolvers. So whenever or whatever ammo I look at, I'll also need to check that ammo spec out because there are some "cowboy loads," as companies call their production line, that have a higher fps rating. I've used Magtech 158gr LFN (a cowboy action load) in my .357 Magnum revolver, and like it pretty well. I'll probably check their ammo out....thanks.

Also chatted with (of all people) the president of Ten-X Ammunition out in CA. He answered the phone! They have two lines of .45LC, one 200gr and one 250gr, but neither had fps info or muzzle energy info available. He pulled up his spec sheets, and I found both of those will be really good levels for my Russian --- 585fps and 695fps. They also will reload if I send them spent brass, which is a lot less expensive and only needs to be bought in a minimum amount of 250 rounds. This company offers some interesting options for me.

Two calls today, and good customer service both times....that is always a plus!

Almost forgot. The HSM ammo has been good so far in my 1873 SA Cattleman revolver. I have the HSM .45 Colt 200 gr. LRNFP, and it's rated at 750fps. Shoots pretty accurately also.

Anyway, with all the firearms I've had, the "ammo chase" is part of the enjoyment/fun with this retirement hobby. I'm not a reloader, so this is the only way I can find what I need.

I have previously looked at the SA Cimmarons before. Very nice-looking guns.....and glad you like yours.

Hope we both get the rain that MO ground needs so much. Right now there is quite a lot of lightening all around me, but mostly to the east. So it's gone past my area so far with not a single drop. Hopefully, we'll get that which is predicted for overnight.

Take care,
PT7

Hello PT7. I recently purchased a SA Cimmaron in .45. Love the gun. Smooth action and shoots great. Seems to really like tha HSM 250 gr Cowboy loads. Concerning your inquiry on 200 gr loads , Magtech makes an excellent cowboy action load. Have shot their brand in many other calibers. High quality consistent performance. Just wanted to share that with you for another ammo option

[Ozarkridgerunner]

Reading off the back of the Magtech box right now. This is their 200 gr LFP. Rated velocity is 761 fps and muzzle energy at 322 ft lbs. Loaded to SASS specs. I recently shot some Federal 225 gr semi wadcutters. Found the accuracy lacking compared to the cowboy loads. You bet, hope we all get a good rain.

[PT7]

The specs are perfect for either of my revolvers...thanks! The Muzzle ft/lb for this MagTech load is rated higher than either the HSM or Aguila 200gr I've been using. Being looking for a brand with that to be a little higher. BTW, the ammo guru at T&C also said Uberti "likes" the load evaluations when held up to SASS specs....so that's a plus. I will be looking to try the MagTech.

Good news. Overnight I did have measurable water in the rain gauge; got 6/10" and it is most welcome!!

Reading off the back of the Magtech box right now. This is their 200 gr LFP. Rated velocity is 761 fps and muzzle energy at 322 ft lbs. Loaded to SASS specs. I recently shot some Federal 225 gr semi wadcutters. Found the accuracy lacking compared to the cowboy loads. You bet, hope we all get a good rain.

[Ozarkridgerunner]

Glad y'all received the moisture and we hope for more. I believe that is spot on about the accuracy of the cowboy loads , at least in my limited experience. I have been very impressed with their performance especially out of 4 3/4" barrel The manufacturers seem to have have found a sweet spot on these loads on how they perform in SA Revolvers.