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HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:33 pm
by Wright30/30
I cant get this gun to shoot consistent.
Factory and reloads. 300 gr to 405.
Scoped 3x9
Bench.
Is is possible that barrel over heats .
I'd be happy with hitting a pie plate at 50yards every shot.
For instance last 4 shots I took. 2 went in center. Then 3d flew about 8 inches high and 4th about 8 inches low.
Anyone recommend a bullet?
I have a 3030 and 243 single shot and they are tack drivers .

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:56 pm
by JEBar
with the recoil of a 45-70 firing hunting level loads, the first thing I'd check would be the scope and its mounts .... I had to use purple Loctite to keep ours from working loose .... also, with hunting level loads, the barrel will most certainly heat up when fired fairly rapidly

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:09 pm
by BigAl52
Does it shoot that way with iron sights? Maybe the scope itself is bad or the reticle is loose. Id take the scope off and give that a try if the mounts and rings are tight. If it shoots that way with iron sights then I would be on the phone to Henry.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:32 pm
by North Country Gal
As above, I'd suspect a scope/mount issue. Al's idea to check by shooting iron sights is a great idea.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:44 pm
by jstanfield103
Just purchased a Henry H010 45/70
Took it to the range and at 25 yards it was hitting a foot to the left. So if not scope or ammo could have been a bad barrel. If you can't figure it out give Henry a call. I did send mine to them and they sent me a replacement rifle that is dead on.

Good luck.

North Country Gal, good to see post from you. I have not seen one from you in other forums for a while.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:05 pm
by Grunt67
I have the same rifle, it is very accurate. I'd do as others suggested, try it with irons, if no better, call Henry.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:06 pm
by JEBar
BigAl52 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:09 pm
If it shoots that way with iron sights then I would be on the phone to Henry.
completely agree

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:34 pm
by Wright30/30
I will try with iron sights for sure.
This is the second scope and it's actually a muzzloader scope.
Just aggravates the fire out of me .

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 pm
by JEBar
looking forward to your report on using open sights

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:12 pm
by Grunt67
Really aggravating to have something like that happen. The first ammo I shot in mine was factory, Federal Fusion 300 gr. JHP.
Hits were all over the place. Tried my handloads, nailed it.
Federal rounds looked like buckshot.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:50 pm
by Wright30/30
Grunt67, what's your hand load data if you dont mind sharing ?

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:52 pm
by Grunt67
Wright30/30 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:50 pm
Grunt67, what's your hand load data if you dont mind sharing ?
Don't mind at all, be glad too.
One of the things we do well here.
I use Hornady 300 gr. JHP, over IMR 4198 41 grs. CCI 200 Large rifle primer, Starline new brass. I can't guarantee that'll
work the same in your rifle, but worth giving it a try. Different guns like different things. I got lucky, I guess on mine.
Later, when I have time ( too close to deer season now ), I'll experiment with slightly different loads, see if that improves, or goes the other way, LOL.
Hope that helps, good luck, pardner. :D

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:05 pm
by Steve51
I use the same bullet over 45.0 grains of H4198. It is not the same as IMR4198, but close. I have good groups at 50 yards. Where I live, I rarely shoot distances greater than 60 or 70 yards. I use iron sights (Skinner rear peep sight).

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:55 pm
by Grunt67
Steve51 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:05 pm
I use the same bullet over 45.0 grains of H4198. It is not the same as IMR4198, but close. I have good groups at 50 yards. Where I live, I rarely shoot distances greater than 60 or 70 yards. I use iron sights (Skinner rear peep sight).
Know what you mean. I hunt in brush too, hard to get a 50 yd shot. I use a scope, my old eyes don't like open sights.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:26 am
by Wright30/30
3 groups at 25 yards off sand bags. Iron sights.
Group 1 300 gr hp
Group 2 250 monoplex (moved sight wrong way)
Group 3 250 monoplex.
I know I need to shoot 50 yards but not sure I how good with iron sights.

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:32 pm
by Wright30/30
50 yards iron sights. Off sandbags

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:35 pm
by Wright30/30
25 yards off sandbags

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:42 pm
by JEBar
that group isn't bad at all and as you become better acquainted with your 30-30 it will get even better 8-)

Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:14 pm
by Grunt67
Here's a target I shot today with the H010 45/70.
10 shots at 50 yds.
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Re: HO10 45/70

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:16 pm
by JEBar
that would put meat in the cooler .. 8-)