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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Mags » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:01 pm

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Thanks for suggesting the cleaners. But how to get at the transfer bar channel to flush it out is still a mystery. It's not like a Henry where you can see the top of the transfer bar and channel in the Henry hammer. In the Uberti revolver the top of the transfer bar and channel is hidden behind the firing pin in the hammer. It's not obvious how one goes about removing the firing pin and transfer bar.
Mags wrote:... I don't see an easy way to disassemble the hammer in a Uberti to clean out the transfer bar channel.
wingnut wrote:See: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/15561 ... er-aerosol
Or similar spray products to aid cleaning of old oils & grease.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by wingnut » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:50 pm

Does your hammer look like this?

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1598920A

If so, then there is no transfer bar. The closest "safety" you have on a loaded chamber would be the half cock notch which is not much if dropped.

A hammer with a transfer bar (safety block) would have a flat face and the firing pin is in the frame. See hammer, safety block (item 55) and firing pin (item 15) on a Blackhawk:

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufa ... -blackhawk

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Mags » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:24 am

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The upper part of the hammer looks like in the first URL. But in mine the firing pin floats in the hammer until full cock at which time the transfer bar inside the hammer slips up behind the firing pin holding the firing pin in the extended ready to fire position.
1873_cattleman_ii_revolver_action_2.jpg
wingnut wrote:Does your hammer look like this?

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1598920A

If so, then there is no transfer bar. The closest "safety" you have on a loaded chamber would be the half cock notch which is not much if dropped.

A hammer with a transfer bar (safety block) would have a flat face and the firing pin is in the frame. See hammer, safety block (item 55) and firing pin (item 15) on a Blackhawk:

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufa ... -blackhawk

Sorry for the highjack.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by GunnyGene » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:01 am

Mags wrote:.
The upper part of the hammer looks like in the first URL. But in mine the firing pin floats in the hammer until full cock at which time the transfer bar inside the hammer slips up behind the firing pin holding the firing pin in the extended ready to fire position.

1873_cattleman_ii_revolver_action_2.jpg
That's a pretty strange looking "transfer bar" on that gun. I don't blame you for not trusting it.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by wingnut » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:33 am

+1
Concur.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Jobrando » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:27 pm

How long will the progression to other calibers take? Are we talking years to get to a 357 or 45 LC?

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by GunnyGene » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:11 pm

Jobrando wrote:How long will the progression to other calibers take? Are we talking years to get to a 357 or 45 LC?
That's up to the company. There's a lot to consider just from a purely business standpoint (will it improve the company's bottom line, etc.). This new model was 2 years in development. They will likely wait a year or 2 to see how this initial entry sells.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Hidden Mortimer » Thu May 02, 2019 1:52 pm

Has any asked Henry if and when the steel versions will be available? If not, then I’m about to fire off and email question to them since the only really good information is that they are planning other calibers.

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Hidden Mortimer » Sat May 04, 2019 12:24 am

Well received this answer from Henry

“Thank you for contacting Henry. I haven’t heard of any plans of yet but you can suggest it at https://www.henryusa.com/henry-firearm-suggestion-box/

Not much for an answer but who knows, maybe it’s in the works. In the meant time I’ll continue saving for a 30-30 even if it’s in the old version.

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by GunnyGene » Sat May 04, 2019 11:09 am

^^
Did you really expect them to tell the truth about competitive planning? That's confidential info and never something a business will talk about. People get fired for revealing possible future company plans without express permission from the CEO.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Hidden Mortimer » Sun May 05, 2019 12:05 am

No, I didn’t expect them too, that’s why I didn’t push the subject too hard. But Judging by the comments from people in the forums, most of them are waiting for those steel versions. So I suspect Henry will listen again and bring those out. Just not yet.

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by bburgess5189 » Tue May 07, 2019 9:19 pm

My gut tells me they will release a couple new calibers a year..

I"m waiting on the 45 Colt.

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Mags » Wed May 08, 2019 12:12 am

I asked Dan if they were going to do octagon side gates. He said no plans to do so, but appreciated the suggestion.
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by JEBar » Wed May 08, 2019 11:16 pm

link to YouTube Henry 30-30 Lever Action Rifle With Side Gate Loading video ====> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoDlGVP-h1o

another link for the new 38-55 ====> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FboK4wA1y7A

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Mistered » Thu May 09, 2019 6:07 am

Back on the Marlin Owners forum, it's pretty positive, but, the hateful few have made their feelings known.
Not a member of the Marlin forum but I visited to see what the controversy was and what I saw was mostly positive about Henry with little to almost nothing negative - but then I only read the initial thread posts on the non-Marlin lever gun thread so I could have missed something.
Heck if anything I read more disdain for NEW Marlins than Henrys.

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by JEBar » Thu May 09, 2019 7:52 am

first of all, I couldn't care less about having a side loading gate ..... that said, I do like the concept of having a rifle that gives me a choice .... in looking at the new rifles, a question has come to mind .... how does the strength/hardness of the "hardened brass receivers" compare with the receivers uses on the BBS and CCH models .... :?:

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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Mags » Thu May 09, 2019 10:37 am

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It was mentioned in at least one of the videos that the brass alloy used is as strong as steel.
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Thu May 09, 2019 7:52 am
first of all, I couldn't care less about having a side loading gate ..... that said, I do like the concept of having a rifle that gives me a choice .... in looking at the new rifles, a question has come to mind .... how does the strength/hardness of the "hardened brass receivers" compare with the receivers uses on the BBS and CCH models .... :?:
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Re: Is this for real?

Post by Mags » Thu May 09, 2019 10:57 am

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Some things I picked up on in the videos...
In one of the scenes, one of the users had a little difficulty with operating the lever, like it was stiff to move.
In another, the mag tube spring appeared to have a lot of push back, one of the users was shown having to push ammo pretty hard into the gate.
The last thing I noticed, especially in slow motion video, sometimes the extractor doesn't let go of the spent cartridge soon enough. It pivots the cartridge around so that it bounces off the side of the receiver behind the eject port. Happens on my Henry brass .30-30. There are quite a few tick marks in the brass of my receiver.

I think the first 2 are new rifle break-in issues and will go way of their own or with DIY adjustments. The latter seems to be a common problem with some of the Henry's not just the new ones.

Overall minor stuff.
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Thu May 09, 2019 6:07 am
Back on the Marlin Owners forum, it's pretty positive, but, the hateful few have made their feelings known.
Not a member of the Marlin forum but I visited to see what the controversy was and what I saw was mostly positive about Henry with little to almost nothing negative - but then I only read the initial thread posts on the non-Marlin lever gun thread so I could have missed something.
Heck if anything I read more disdain for NEW Marlins than Henrys.
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