Opinions....

[Mistered]

I have been involved in a discussion about pistol caliber rifles on another forum and Henry has been brought up.
One member has often referred to them as 'junk' in many previous posts and in this one he again stated it:

Henry’s are absolute junk imho, I’ll never buy another even to resell.

So, I followed up with this:

You have mentioned this many times and I and I am wondering what your specific experience with a Henry is/was that led you to this conclusion?
Henrys are no doubt relatively high production rifles and have their share of problems but no more than reported about as many other production guns. Also consider the many recalls over the years.
My 2103 BBB Henry .357 has been excellent, with a fit and finish rivaling that of considerably higher end guns.
It is also very smooth, with a great trigger and very accurate.
I will however criticize Henry on a variety of basic issues I see that could have been improved and I suspect they might have been intentionally left unchanged to facilitate production or to maintain a price point. Some of these issues have since been changed and improved on.
Overall I think the Henry is good rifle given the numbers they produce and their customer service is excellent.
I have read and heard from many who have either had to send their rifles back for service or just been sent replacement parts (no charge) and have been very satisfied. Also just this morning I read on another forum Henry is replacing a complete rifle for an owner who had to send his back twice for a last round feeding problem that was not resolved.
In all fairness there have been a few who have been less than satisfied however it is nothing in comparison to reports from people who claim ZERO customer service from other manufacturers.

It will be interesting to read his response (if he responds) and I'll post it if anyone would care to see it.

[BigAl52]

Sure Id lie to know. Like to know his reason for thinking there junk also. Let me guess is this from the know it all crowd on the same forum that claimed 1860's were Ubertis.

[RanchRoper]

I have had good Fords and bad ones, good lawn tractors and bad ones, etc etc...it happens with everything. The HRA BB 45 Colt I had was top notch. Guy I sold it to loves it. My Uberti is great too, but I see people knock them as well sometimes.

[BrokenolMarine]

There are brand loyal folks who just tout their brands, then those who aren't satisfied unless they not only brag on their brand, but bring down everything else. No matter what the product. I have seen it with cars/trucks, firearms, kayaks, you name it.

Often, when pushed, you get this:

"Well, I have never (owned, driven, paddled, shot, handled, or seen one...) Myself... But my cousin's sister's brother's uncle's sister's friend told me. Why would he lie?"

[BrokenolMarine]

Credibilty. ..

Once you lose it, you can't buy it back.

[markiver54]

I wonder if he bases his opinion on ownership experience, or just here say from a friend who may have had a bad experience.
Maybe there is no basis for his claim, other than the fact he owns a different brand and wishes he had bought a Henry.
Anyway...I totally disagree with him, as I'm sure many of us do.
I am totally happy with my Henry rifles.☺

[ESquared]

There's brand snobbery in every corner of the consumer goods world, and maybe even more so in firearms. Seems like it's 99% personal opinion, based on anecdotes and hearsay.

Was part of a DSLR (photo) forum for many years and the Nikon vs. Canon stuff was gruesome. But they're both great companies that make great stuff.

Will be eager to hear this KIA/s response..

[Mistered]

Let me guess is this from the know it all crowd on the same forum that claimed 1860's were Ubertis.

No, this is on a Pacific Northwest based gun forum that is very popular and I have been a member of for many years.
I has a large member base, a lot of commercial sponsorships and a lot of knowledgeable & friendly people, some of which I have come to know personally over the years.
Unfortunately like all forums there are the opinionated 'know it alls' who take a negative approach to things they either have one bad experience with, or the item does not meet their needs based on skewed, narrow-minded ideas.
The forum has a wide cross-section of members consisting of a lot of 'seasoned', experienced gun owners down to younger newbees who think if it ain't black & plastic its of no use, outdated or ancient.
You get the picture.....

[CT_Shooter]

I'm going to suggest that if he responds, it will not be informative or honest, but it will certainly be defensive. Once someone like that publicly makes a declarative, definitive, and unfounded statement, it's unlikely that he would later admit to having expressed a poorly considered criticism. He will simply say that he's right and he'll continue to believe it.

Thankfully, we are entitled to our own, well-considered opinions; and most of us will proudly continue to admire our Henrys for the great rifles that they are.

It will be interesting to read his response (if he responds) and I'll post it if anyone would care to see it.

[RanchRoper]

That's what I tell my wife...it's not a lie if I believe it.

[GFK]

I have been involved in a discussion about pistol caliber rifles on another forum and Henry has been brought up.
One member has often referred to them as 'junk' in many previous posts and in this one he again stated it:

Henry’s are absolute junk imho, I’ll never buy another even to resell.

So, I followed up with this:

You have mentioned this many times and I and I am wondering what your specific experience with a Henry is/was that led you to this conclusion?

Seems like a fair question.

[markiver54]

That's what I tell my wife...it's not a lie if I believe it.

and if it is a lie, ya gotta remember it!

[Mags]

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Opinion is just a bad onion without the pi.

[Mgderf]

If Henry's were that bad I wouldn't have bought 6 of them.

[JEBar]

I'm going to suggest that if he responds, it will not be informative or honest, but it will certainly be defensive. Once someone like that publicly makes a declarative, definitive, and unfounded statement, it's unlikely that he would later admit to having expressed a poorly considered criticism. He will simply say that he's right and he'll continue to believe it.

well said and dead on the money .... on this forum, such post are considered to be inflammatory and aren't permitted .... the difference is clear .... post detailing a problem with a Henry firearm are fine .... global, unsubstantiated indictments are not .... such post are a favorite tool of "trolls" who enjoy creating and then sitting back and watching controversy .... I once had a member here tell me (via PM) that he was trying to create some excitement by making such statements .... that's not the way we do business

[BigAl52]

Found the forum that this is on. Some of the other comments are interesting also. But the guy hasnt responded to Ed yet.

[Mistered]

Found the forum that this is on. Some of the other comments are interesting also. But the guy hasn't responded to Ed yet.

Yea - he is overdue so probably isn't planning on it.
As you can see the thread started out with a different topic and not related to quality.
Here is the thread if anyone wants to read it.
It is PC carbine/rifle related so I thought it was appropriate to post it.
https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threa ... ve.306650/

[ESquared]

I read through it and, frankly, I find threads like that to be totally wearying and of almost no value.

Everybody and their uncle weighing in with their experience, or a mangled story of someone else's experience (like a 15 lb Henry), dozens of side-tracking, "over the transom" posts, all leading to nowhere. A true dog's breakfast.

Good for you for challenging what you did, but this quickly gets filed under "life it too short" for me.

[Mistered]

I read through it and, frankly, I find threads like that to be totally wearying and of almost no value.

Well, the thread started out with a rational and reasonable question but drifted rather quickly....

[shootinthecinders]

“Lever action rifles are not sexy - they are mature and glamorous.” My favorite comment of the entire linked forum thread.