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Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:08 pm
by CT_Shooter
I took my long neglected Henry H001 and Heritage Rough Rider Revolver to the range today. I shot 120 (full speed loader) rounds in the Henry and 100 rounds in the HRR. I only used one target for each gun and I always shoot off hand. I shot the Henry at 75 feet using a 4x Simmons scope and the HRR at 25 feet. I have to say that even though the targets aren't great and I still have lots of practice ahead of me, I had a great time with both guns. I think it's time to bend the front sight on the HRR a bit, though. I've never changed it and it looks pretty obvious that it shoots to the left.

Both guns were flawless, as per normal.
Henry Classic
Henry Classic
Heritage Rough Rider 6.5
Heritage Rough Rider 6.5

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:33 pm
by White Squirrel
Flawless is good!

Nice shooting with both.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:52 pm
by PT7
If the Henry and HRR hadn't been "long neglected," there wouldn't have been a single POI outside the targets. ;)
Great shooting!
Great time!!
Great!!!
:D

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:20 pm
by RetiredSeabee
220 rounds is having a whole lot of fun!
Glad you took the poor neglected things out for some exercise.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:59 pm
by CT_Shooter
I have some bad news about my HRR revolver.

As always, I check screws for loosening. Well, the trigger screw was loose enough to move, so I began to tighten it. It turned easily. And I turned it. And it kept turning, but it wouldn't tighten. After some coaxing with a surgical clamp, I managed to remove the screw head and a long piece of the screw having only one or two threads attached. The rest of it was still in the gun, visible and secure on the other side of the frame.

I bought it in Jan 2015. So, I called Heritage, who told me it had a one year warranty and it would cost $50 plus shipping both ways, plus parts and labor to repair the gun. :cry:

This gun has not had a lot of action, only a few hundred rounds, at best. I'll be asking a local gunsmith to look at it, but I'm so very disappointed that this little, defective screw has disabled the entire gun and that their CS and the quality of their parts is so very poor. On the other hand, it only cost me $180 + FFL fees. I guess they're right. You get what your pay for. I can see an Uberti .22LR in my future.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:20 pm
by daytime dave
CT_Shooter wrote:I have some bad news about my HRR revolver.

As always, I check screws for loosening. Well, the trigger screw was loose enough to move, so I began to tighten it. It turned easily. And I turned it. And it kept turning, but it wouldn't tighten. After some coaxing with a surgical clamp, I managed to remove the screw head and a long piece of the screw having only one or two threads attached. The rest of it was still in the gun, visible and secure on the other side of the frame.

I bought it in Jan 2015. So, I called Heritage, who told me it had a one year warranty and it would cost $50 plus shipping both ways, plus parts and labor to repair the gun. :cry:

This gun has not had a lot of action, only a few hundred rounds, at best. I'll be asking a local gunsmith to look at it, but I'm so very disappointed that this little, defective screw has disabled the entire gun and that their CS and the quality of their parts is so very poor. On the other hand, it only cost me $180 + FFL fees. I guess they're right. You get what your pay for. I can see an Uberti .22LR in my future.

you are so right sir, you get what you pay for.

Too bad they are not like Henry and it's customer service.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:01 pm
by Henry88
What they are, basically, is Taurus customer no service, as Clark Howard would say.

I will not buy a Taurus because of the horror stories I've heard. Not that they are bad guns.

Now I may not buy another Heritage; didn't really plan to anyway FWIW

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:44 pm
by PT7
Sure sorry to hear the bummer news on your HRR. Almost hard to imagine what you thought when you saw the "rest of the screw still in the gun, visible and secure on the other side of the frame." Arrgh! :x

I've looked at the Ubertis on their web site, never have handled one yet. They are really very sharp-looking revolvers. But I have handled/seen quite a few Ruger SA revolvers, including the Ruger Single Six. I especially like the Ruger New Bearcat in .22LR (model #0915). That's one of the best-looking revolvers I've seen them make in this caliber. http://www.ruger.com/products/newBearca ... /0915.html The Rugers are quite solidly build. If anything like my SP101 .357 Magnum quality, it should serve a person well. You might check them out if you do consider another .22LR down-the-road.

If I may suggest? I'd still go ahead with your plans to check it out with your local gunsmith. There might be a silver lining somewhere there as he may find an "easy fix" (and hopefully not too expensive) to get the HRR going again. Best of luck, CT-Shooter!

CT_Shooter wrote:I have some bad news about my HRR revolver.

As always, I check screws for loosening. Well, the trigger screw was loose enough to move, so I began to tighten it. It turned easily. And I turned it. And it kept turning, but it wouldn't tighten. After some coaxing with a surgical clamp, I managed to remove the screw head and a long piece of the screw having only one or two threads attached. The rest of it was still in the gun, visible and secure on the other side of the frame.

I bought it in Jan 2015. So, I called Heritage, who told me it had a one year warranty and it would cost $50 plus shipping both ways, plus parts and labor to repair the gun. :cry:

This gun has not had a lot of action, only a few hundred rounds, at best. I'll be asking a local gunsmith to look at it, but I'm so very disappointed that this little, defective screw has disabled the entire gun and that their CS and the quality of their parts is so very poor. On the other hand, it only cost me $180 + FFL fees. I guess they're right. You get what your pay for. I can see an Uberti .22LR in my future.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:37 am
by White Squirrel
I agree with PT7. If a local gunsmith can fix you up for a "reasonable" charge, you may still have a usable revolver with only a moderate investment.

If not, then begin the search for a replacement.

The Heritage Rough Rider is a fun little revolver, but, like you, when I bought mine for $180 I knew I wasn't getting a Ruger!

Good luck.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:56 am
by Deadwood Dutch
Sorry to hear of the problem with your revolver. I often carry my Henry H001 and one of my Rough Riders and as stated above, I am aware that I don't have a top quality revolver but I will keep my fingers crossed.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:04 am
by RetiredSeabee
Sorry to hear about the revolver. But I can vouch for the Uberti. They are solid as a rock. Definitely agree that having a local smith get the screw out is a good idea.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:53 pm
by CT_Shooter
Update on my 18 month old HRR.

I had a gunsmith remove the broken end of the trigger screw, which he did without damaging the threads and at a cost of $35; but he didn't have a replacement screw. So, I called Heritage to order the part - a trigger screw. I really couldn't believe what I thought I heard, so I asked her to repeat it. Incredibly, I heard correctly. They charged $18.34 to my credit card and said it will take 7 to 10 days to arrive. :lol:

What I've learned from this is that not everyone values their customers and stands behind their workmanship like the Henry Repeating Arms Company! In fact, it seems to me that some -- like Heritage Arms -- will go out of their way to guarantee that current customers never return. That's what they did for me.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:17 pm
by CT_Shooter
Update on the Update...

As you know, yesterday I ordered the trigger screw from Heritage, even though the cost was outrageous. Later in the day, I was told by a friend of an online site where I could buy it for $3, shipping included.

So, this morning, two minutes after they opened for business, I called Heritage to cancel my order. They were happy to do that for me, but told me that they could only refund the cost of screw, $4.00. They would still "have to" charge my credit card for the $14 shipping cost.

I decided to let the order stand and I expressed my sympathy to the CS rep, telling her I was so very sorry that she had to work for a company like Heritage, and I wished her the best.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:57 pm
by White Squirrel
Well, glad you are going to at least have your revolver repaired, but $53 to replace a screw does seem a "little" out of line. Especially on a sub-$200 firearm.

You have convinced me to shoot my Rough Rider until it falls apart and then use it for a paperweight. :) Except, no one uses paper anymore, so I guess it wouldn't even be useful for that.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:30 am
by Whiskeyshooter
I bought a Heritage 22.22mag not long ago and very pleased with the quality considering the low price. First of all, they are made by Heritage and not by Taurus. There big bore guns are bought from a company in Italy, and assembled in America by Heritage. Yes, you do see the occasion "bad" gun appear, for the most part I have seen nothing but really great reviews. I buy through Buds, and always pay a little extra for their life time warranty.
I also bought a Ruger Blackhawk in 357/9mm and that pistol is solid. I imagine by the looks of the quality that it will out last just about any firearm made. Sorry to hear you have a problem with your Heritage. I can't imagine that Heritage would turn down fixing a gun just over a year. That does suck. I would make one more call to Customer Service and ask for a Manager, be nice and just give it one more try.
If they refuse, they the bad publicity will be worse for them. I wish you luck.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:48 am
by bandit1250
My Heritage is a older one and is accurate even though it is non-adjustable sight model. It needed the front sight higher so I built the sight up with acra-glas died black and worked it down until it was on target. I liked it so well I went and bought a brand new adjustable sight model. Never seen any thing wrong with it at the shop. I got it home and the muzzle crown looked like it was done with a dull drill bit. I took it back to the shop and all the others were the same. I lost $25 selling it back to the dealer. Lessen learned is buy the Ruger for more money and buy once. There is videos on the internet on how to work on Heritage revolvers and they are easy to work on as they are quite simple.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:32 pm
by Whiskeyshooter
I bought the Blackhawk for a number of reason. One very important reason was the fact that I am a dedicated Ruger fan.I know their customer service. It is one of the best no correction, it is the best customer service of any product I have ever purchased, and I not just speaking about guns. I have owned Rugers for years. And yes, even Ruger can send out a firearm that may develop a problem. But, they take responsibility and provide the service and do it quickly. I now own about 7 or 8 Rugers. From what I have read after purchasing a Henry, they do have this quality of Customer service which meant a lot to me in my decision to own a lever action 22.
*Note: As mentioned in another post, I did buy my Heritage from "Buds gun shop. I elected to get their " extended life time warranty for the Heritage. Cost was like $10.00. Maybe something to consider for future firearm purchase.

Re: Henry and Heritage Rough Rider

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:26 pm
by RanchRoper
When I get poor customer service I am notorious for going up company ladders as far as I have to until I get some sort of satisfaction. I don't yell, curse or throw tantrums but I know from experience that the higher I go, the more costly it is for the company to make me happy. And I make sure they know it. Don't give up, go after them. $180 is not chump change and they need to back up what they sell with some service to their "valued" customer.