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38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:11 pm

I don't shoot .38s in my .357 Big Boy or my .357 Uberti Cattleman, but I do have lots of brass, lots of ZERO 130 grain FMJs (which I bought for, but was advised not to shoot in .357 cases in my BBB), and lots of Unique. So, I thought I would dedicate the bullets, brass, and powder to this 1956 Colt Official Police Revolver. It is in pristine condition; 100% bluing, sparkling clean barrel and cylinder, and shoots like a dream.

But, there isn't any published data that I could find for the bullet in this caliber, meaning a bit of extrapolation and experimentation was required. Hornady's Ninth Edition provides data for Unique with .125 and .140 XTPs, so I used them for my calculations. I decided to start with 4.7, 5.0, and 5.2 grains for these reloads.

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Bullet	750 fps	800 fps	850 fps
			
125.0	5.1	5.3	5.6
140.0	4.2	4.7	5.2
			
130.0	4.7	5.0	5.2
I loaded six each and took them to the range yesterday, shooting at a distance of 15 feet. I shot at four targets, one each for the reloads and a fourth for Winchester factory 130 FMJs.

For the reloads, I shot single action, two hands, elbows resting on the bench. For the Winchesters, I shot double action, some resting on one elbow, but most sitting, off hand.

I've got several hundred cases cleaned and primed, ready to add powder and bullets. I decided I like the 4.7 grain load best, though the 5.0 load is a very close second. I thought the 5.2 load was a bit too much for this old gun. I don't want to beat it up; I just want to enjoy shooting it when I can. And, yesterday, I had fun with it.

It originally was a policeman's service revolver in my home town, and came into my father-in-law's possession when that officer retired. He eventually gave it to me, and it is the only reason that I obtained a pistol permit and began my shooting hobby, for which I am very grateful.

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Here are the targets. The photo was taken with my phone from the bench, about 15 feet away.
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H006M BBB .357 - H001 Classic .22LR - Uberti/Taylors & Co. SmokeWagon .357 5.5" - Uberti/Taylors & Co. RanchHand .22LR 5.5" - Colt King Cobra Carry 2" - Colt Official Police 38spl 4"

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by fortyshooter » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Very nice old Colt! Looks like you found the 4.7 gr. Unique a great load for it.
130 gr. 357 bullets are an odd one. I shoot a lot of 125 gr. plated bullets in my .38 and mild .357 loads

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by BigAl52 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:32 pm

Uberti makes a real nice open top in 38 special Stan.
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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by PT7 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:41 pm

CT_Shooter wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:11 pm
I thought I would dedicate the bullets, brass, and powder to this 1956 Colt Official Police Revolver. It is in pristine condition; 100% bluing, sparkling clean barrel and cylinder, and shoots like a dream....I don't want to beat it up; I just want to enjoy shooting it when I can. And, yesterday, I had fun with it.

It originally was a policeman's service revolver in my home town, and came into my father-in-law's possession when that officer retired. He eventually gave it to me, and it is the only reason that I obtained a pistol permit and began my shooting hobby, for which I am very grateful.
CT_Shooter, your "dedication" of bullets, brass, and powder to this revolver is well-placed. And "pristine" does describe the condition of this 63-year-old firearm....I can't think of a better adjective at the moment! Excellent photo. Many of the blued, NOOB revolvers I see in the LGS display cases today do not even approach how sharp yours looks. ;)

Not least, need to note that good shooting. You took the whole package and placed those POIs very nicely in-target.....rounded out your Range Report perfectly :!: :D :!:

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by JEBar » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:44 pm

CT ....

thanks for the nudge .... I really need to get back to developing a load for my wife's 38

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by fortyshooter » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:00 pm

I don't own any .38 Special only revolvers but have a nice S&W Model 66 "no dash" that I shoot .38 +P loads and mild .357 Mag. along
with my Ruger .357 LCR.

That Colt you have was well made back in those years!

Maybe try some classic lead 158 gr. loads if you get around to it one day.
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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:25 pm

Nicely done CT!

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by Mistered » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:38 pm

I don't own any .38 Special only revolvers but have a nice S&W Model 66 "no dash"
Do You still have the stainless steel rear sight as I see you (or someone) swapped it out for a blued sight (as I did on mine).
The Dash # 1 on the Mod 66 was the change from the SS rear to a blued sight.
Also is your red plastic inset front sight stock? If so it is rare as the early 'no dash' S & Ws (with adjustable sights) typically did not have them.
A lot of them were modified later as it is pretty easy to do.

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by fortyshooter » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:49 pm

This one was made in 1976 and from what I have read/heard the early ones had the stainless rear sight and no insert in front sight.
When I got this one the front insert was missing so I made another one.

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by North Country Gal » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:07 pm

You sure got old revolver nut me drooling with this post, CT. (You, too, forty. Nice Smith.) That vintage Colt is just gorgeous and you did it justice with your shooting. Honestly, although we have revolvers chambered in a variety of cartridges, I don't think it gets any more classic than a revolver chambered in a 38 Special.

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Post by Mistered » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:27 pm

and from what I have read/heard the early ones had the stainless rear sight and no insert in front sight.
This is correct and they are terrible to shoot with due to reflection and many got junked and swapped for blue.
Mine came with the SS rear and I still have it.
Someone most likely modded the front on yours. I don't think S & W started to factory inset the front sights until the 80's.
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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by Rifletom » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:52 am

CT, why the advice not to load/shoot 130 FMJ in .357 cases from your BB rifle? Curious. Great looking Colt you have there and great shooting. That's a good load. Enjoy. 4.7gr Unique is the cat's meow in .38's. Excellent load.

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by Mistered » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:58 am

CT, why the advice not to load/shoot 130 FMJ in .357 cases from your BB rifle?
Kinda wondering myself.
Not much different than shooting 125 grain jacketed bullets in .357 cases.

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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by CT_Shooter » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:04 pm

Rifletom wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:52 am
CT, why the advice not to load/shoot 130 FMJ in .357 cases from your BB rifle? Curious.
One of our members reported this shortly after I had bought a good supply and was shooting them as .357s in my BBB. I had not heard that before, so I called Henry CS to ask for myself.

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... ard#p49324

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Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:52 am
Great looking Colt you have there and great shooting. That's a good load. Enjoy. 4.7gr Unique is the cat's meow in .38's. Excellent load.
I just finished reloading 350 rounds of .38s using that load. I liked it very much. Thanks for confirming it.
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Re: 38 special 130 grain FMJ reloads

Post by JEBar » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:52 pm

CT_Shooter wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:04 pm
I just finished reloading 350 rounds of .38s using that load. I liked it very much. Thanks for confirming it.
looks like some serious range reports are on tap ... :D

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