PT7: SeeAll MK-1 Sight on a Winchester 67A
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:23 pm
Heading out for my range time today, I didn’t have high enough expectations. So, I left my camera at home. Was that ever a goof! 
My range results were very good, and I wasn’t looking ahead positively.
This Range Report could also fit under other forum categories such as “sights” or “ammunition.” Maybe the variety of my experience today will be interesting to some of you good Henry Folk.
~~~Primary Goal
I was really intrigued by Pilsner’s Range Report when he got his new Henry .357 BBB in early December. http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5641 His shooting was great, and he focused a lot on the new sight he tried out to help with his vision challenges. It was the “SeeAll Open Sight (model MK-1).” https://seeallopensight.com/collections ... open-sight I researched it, and also asked CT_Shooter and ESquared to look it over for me. I’m not able to shoot any long gun due to my eye challenges, in particular cross-eyed dominance. I had about thrown in the towel on long guns, and more enjoying my fixed sight Uberti S/A revolvers. Both fellows thought the sight had some potential for me. In fact, CT_Shooter went the extra mile. We have the same birthday (December 29th). I found a package in my mailbox on my birthday, and CT_Shooter had sent me the model MK-1 SeeAll as a gift. We’ve exchanged birthday gifts/cards since we met on the Forum….kind of a fun thing to do. Bottom line, wow! Not what I expected at all!
Today, my primary goal was to try out this sight.
~~~Outdoor range visit, and the rifle used.
I drove up to my son’s-in-law outdoor range around noon. The MO weather has changed again back to winter cold, and although the sun was shining in a blue sky, the temp was a brisk 32* with a 12-mph wind. The cold was a minor factor because I had to sight in and shoot without gloves.
Why “no gloves?” Because I mounted the SeeAll on my son’s-in-law single-shot .22LR. Lots of finger work with a single-shot. I found out that this single-shot was his very first rifle as a youth. It’s a bolt-action Winchester model 67A, built in 1957. Interesting that it doesn’t carry a serial number as that wasn’t required prior to 1960. He had a picatinny rail on the rifle, and it took about 3 minutes to mount the sight. Great fit, and the sight even looked okay to both of us. Similar look to a red dot he uses, and actually smaller than his red dot.
~~~Ammo and Target used.
Set up an 8” square black steel target at 50 yards. That was the sight-in distance. I chose to use Browning Perf. Rimfire (BPR) 40gr RN. This ammo shoots really well out of my SGC, so it would be the test ammo today. Took a little while to sight in the SeeAll; both windage and elevation were quite off. But finally got it set at 50 yards.
~~~The Shooting Event.
This is where I really failed in my expectations. Just didn’t think the SeeAll would work for me; not sure why, because Pilsner had great results. After about 4-5 rounds to learn how to acquire the target, I absolutely could not miss hitting that steel target. Heard that wonderful clang about 40 times! When I finished for the day and went to check the target plus re-spray it, most POIs were close to dead center of the 8” square. I “created” about a 3” white bull on the black steel. Sure wish I had my camera!
My son-in-law was watching, and had a suggestion. He took over the rifle and tried shooting at a 200-yard target on his long-distance range. Of course, he clanged it since his strong expertise is long-distance shooting. Told me to try it. I never hit the steel, but finally was able to “ding” the shooting board the steel target was mounted on. With more practice, I’m pretty sure I could take the .22LR out to that 200-yard steel target using the SeeAll. I was actually more than surprised; more in amazement.
~~~An extra ammo experience and another gift.
Then my son-in-law went to his ammo can and pulled out a brick of .22 ammo I’ve not seen before. He said he had it for years, and it is no longer made. It is Remington brand “CBee22.” This is a low-velocity .22 with these specs:
~30gr solid point, copper coated.
~Muzzle velocity = 720fps; 50-yards velocity = 640fps.
~The box states that Remington developed these ballistics in “rifle length test barrels.” I’m not certain what that is…might do some research to find out.
Since my son-in-law said this ammo really should be used, he gave me one 50-round box. Of course, it would never chamber in my Henry SGC. That very, very short CBee would somersault in the receiver. But I’ll try these in my Uberti Stallion .22 revolver. Out of the rifle, they sounded like a cap gun. This gift should be some fun ahead. My son-in-law jokingly asked me how large my basement is in the new house!
~~~Ammo Comparison
The only photo I do have is of the two ammos I/we shot today. Here is a comparison of the BPR and CBee .22s . I know you all know which is which.
A most different, interesting, and fun day at the range. 
I enjoyed writing this Range Report with its twists and turns and good results. Hope it was interesting for you Folk to read.
Take care.
PT7
My range results were very good, and I wasn’t looking ahead positively.This Range Report could also fit under other forum categories such as “sights” or “ammunition.” Maybe the variety of my experience today will be interesting to some of you good Henry Folk.
~~~Primary Goal
I was really intrigued by Pilsner’s Range Report when he got his new Henry .357 BBB in early December. http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5641 His shooting was great, and he focused a lot on the new sight he tried out to help with his vision challenges. It was the “SeeAll Open Sight (model MK-1).” https://seeallopensight.com/collections ... open-sight I researched it, and also asked CT_Shooter and ESquared to look it over for me. I’m not able to shoot any long gun due to my eye challenges, in particular cross-eyed dominance. I had about thrown in the towel on long guns, and more enjoying my fixed sight Uberti S/A revolvers. Both fellows thought the sight had some potential for me. In fact, CT_Shooter went the extra mile. We have the same birthday (December 29th). I found a package in my mailbox on my birthday, and CT_Shooter had sent me the model MK-1 SeeAll as a gift. We’ve exchanged birthday gifts/cards since we met on the Forum….kind of a fun thing to do. Bottom line, wow! Not what I expected at all!
Today, my primary goal was to try out this sight.
~~~Outdoor range visit, and the rifle used.
I drove up to my son’s-in-law outdoor range around noon. The MO weather has changed again back to winter cold, and although the sun was shining in a blue sky, the temp was a brisk 32* with a 12-mph wind. The cold was a minor factor because I had to sight in and shoot without gloves.
Why “no gloves?” Because I mounted the SeeAll on my son’s-in-law single-shot .22LR. Lots of finger work with a single-shot. I found out that this single-shot was his very first rifle as a youth. It’s a bolt-action Winchester model 67A, built in 1957. Interesting that it doesn’t carry a serial number as that wasn’t required prior to 1960. He had a picatinny rail on the rifle, and it took about 3 minutes to mount the sight. Great fit, and the sight even looked okay to both of us. Similar look to a red dot he uses, and actually smaller than his red dot.
~~~Ammo and Target used.
Set up an 8” square black steel target at 50 yards. That was the sight-in distance. I chose to use Browning Perf. Rimfire (BPR) 40gr RN. This ammo shoots really well out of my SGC, so it would be the test ammo today. Took a little while to sight in the SeeAll; both windage and elevation were quite off. But finally got it set at 50 yards.
~~~The Shooting Event.
This is where I really failed in my expectations. Just didn’t think the SeeAll would work for me; not sure why, because Pilsner had great results. After about 4-5 rounds to learn how to acquire the target, I absolutely could not miss hitting that steel target. Heard that wonderful clang about 40 times! When I finished for the day and went to check the target plus re-spray it, most POIs were close to dead center of the 8” square. I “created” about a 3” white bull on the black steel. Sure wish I had my camera!
My son-in-law was watching, and had a suggestion. He took over the rifle and tried shooting at a 200-yard target on his long-distance range. Of course, he clanged it since his strong expertise is long-distance shooting. Told me to try it. I never hit the steel, but finally was able to “ding” the shooting board the steel target was mounted on. With more practice, I’m pretty sure I could take the .22LR out to that 200-yard steel target using the SeeAll. I was actually more than surprised; more in amazement.
~~~An extra ammo experience and another gift.
Then my son-in-law went to his ammo can and pulled out a brick of .22 ammo I’ve not seen before. He said he had it for years, and it is no longer made. It is Remington brand “CBee22.” This is a low-velocity .22 with these specs:
~30gr solid point, copper coated.
~Muzzle velocity = 720fps; 50-yards velocity = 640fps.
~The box states that Remington developed these ballistics in “rifle length test barrels.” I’m not certain what that is…might do some research to find out.
Since my son-in-law said this ammo really should be used, he gave me one 50-round box. Of course, it would never chamber in my Henry SGC. That very, very short CBee would somersault in the receiver. But I’ll try these in my Uberti Stallion .22 revolver. Out of the rifle, they sounded like a cap gun. This gift should be some fun ahead. My son-in-law jokingly asked me how large my basement is in the new house!
~~~Ammo Comparison
The only photo I do have is of the two ammos I/we shot today. Here is a comparison of the BPR and CBee .22s . I know you all know which is which.
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I enjoyed writing this Range Report with its twists and turns and good results. Hope it was interesting for you Folk to read.Take care.
PT7
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