Page 1 of 1
Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:54 pm
by Sir Henry
I finished my volunteering late this afternoon and thought I would shoot my New Model Single-Six. First a quick lightening of the trigger. It must have taken me a full 60 seconds!
- 1E9D63F8-08D9-44AC-9BEE-CA7D8FC9CDB9.jpeg (265.41 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Okay to the range. I barely got off six rounds…..
- A0F2C620-5BF3-4660-805A-C87BBC4C99D3.jpeg (97.96 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
…when I received my first trick or treaters. I had put the news out there each kid would get a full quart of candy that averaged a pound. These kids were visiting Norma and didn’t want to miss this opportunity before leaving for the city. I guess it pays to advertise.
- C1294EC8-BC8B-4F12-BDAD-F0C8FDFD4D46.jpeg (191.63 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Dad, in the background, noticed my berm and we talked about shooting for the next half hour until the kids got restless.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:39 pm
by fortyshooter
Yes indeed the poor mans trigger job! All my SA Rugers have that and works great. Nice group of Treaters there!
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:06 pm
by North Country Gal
Hey, for a pound of treats, I might even show up. I'd have to get costume, though.
Hope you are enjoying the Ruger.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:12 pm
by Sir Henry
North Country Gal wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:06 pm
Hey, for a pound of treats, I might even show up. I'd have to get costume, though.
Hope you are enjoying the Ruger.
I’m still getting used to it. Tx Gun Rn told me the Uberti is a better firearm than the Ruger because the cylinder is reamed different. The casing easily slips inside the front of the Ruger cylinder because it’s the same size as the casing all the way through. The Uberti is only reamed as far as LR casing and the rest of the cylinder is the bore of the barrel.
- F314E5EC-3496-4E63-90CE-9BF5DA867FD8.jpeg (255.2 KiB) Viewed 1184 times
This picture demonstrates that however I’m not sure that it makes any difference. I think he was saying there is less blowby in the cylinder and when it jumps the gap there is less variance.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:12 pm
by fortyshooter
Now that is interesting!
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:26 pm
by dave77
fortyshooter wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:39 pm
Yes indeed the poor mans trigger job! All my SA Rugers have that and works great. Nice group of Treaters there!
So that would work with my Blackhawk?
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:38 am
by Sir Henry
dave77 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:26 pm
fortyshooter wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:39 pm
Yes indeed the poor mans trigger job! All my SA Rugers have that and works great. Nice group of Treaters there!
So that would work with my Blackhawk?
I’ve only known about this for 48 hours so I’m no expert however I believe it will.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:01 am
by North Country Gal
Yes, it would, assuming you have a New Model Blackhawk. The Old Model three screws had different action, so it only applies New Models. Give it a try.
Gene, yes, I remember that argument from our old friend about the absence of a constriction at the end of the cylinder in Ruger 22 LR revolvers affecting accuracy. I have had some late 50s vintage Single Sixes that did have a constriction at the end of the chambers and they're quite accurate. On the other hand, I have had some current production New Models without that constriction that were every bit as accurate. In fact, I've had a few New Model SSs that would shot as well as a fine target semi auto 22. Bottom line is that I would regard the presence or absence of that contraction to be a minor factor in accuracy.
Having owned probably two dozen Ruger Single Sixes over the years, I can safely say that you may or may not get match grade accuracy with any given Single Six, but you will always get useable accuracy for at least plinking and practice purposes. And, yeah, you may very well get that match grade accuracy, but you won't know until you actually load any given SS and start shooting.
The caveat, here, though, is to use quality ammo when testing for accuracy. I know you like the CCI Quiets, but that is definitely NOT ammo for accuracy testing and that is based on shooting for groups with a wide variety of guns. It even makes my match grade 22s look bad. At the very minimum, you should be using CCI SV for accuracy testing. Better yet, step up to some match grade 22 LR target ammo. Made a night and day difference in some Single Sixes I've shot.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:29 pm
by Sir Henry
North Country Gal wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:01 am
Yes, it would, assuming you have a New Model Blackhawk. The Old Model three screws had different action, so it only applies New Models. Give it a try.
Gene, yes, I remember that argument from our old friend about the absence of a constriction at the end of the cylinder in Ruger 22 LR revolvers affecting accuracy. I have had some late 50s vintage Single Sixes that did have a constriction at the end of the chambers and they're quite accurate. On the other hand, I have had some current production New Models without that constriction that were every bit as accurate. In fact, I've had a few New Model SSs that would shot as well as a fine target semi auto 22. Bottom line is that I would regard the presence or absence of that contraction to be a minor factor in accuracy.
Having owned probably two dozen Ruger Single Sixes over the years, I can safely say that you may or may not get match grade accuracy with any given Single Six, but you will always get useable accuracy for at least plinking and practice purposes. And, yeah, you may very well get that match grade accuracy, but you won't know until you actually load any given SS and start shooting.
The caveat, here, though, is to use quality ammo when testing for accuracy. I know you like the CCI Quiets, but that is definitely NOT ammo for accuracy testing and that is based on shooting for groups with a wide variety of guns. It even makes my match grade 22s look bad. At the very minimum, you should be using CCI SV for accuracy testing. Better yet, step up to some match grade 22 LR target ammo. Made a night and day difference in some Single Sixes I've shot.
I don’t think John was convinced of his own argument about accuracy. He was more concerned with tolerances. I do know my Uberti will not cycle if there is any debris in the least in it. When loading the cylinder I have to push the ammo firmly all the way in.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:27 pm
by fortyshooter
Speaking about poor man trigger jobs...with the Smith & Wesson DA revolvers they use a flat spring in the grip with a tension screw.
So you can back that screw off just a bit until you get a misfire and the tighten it up 1/2 turn. You get a nice lighter hammer pull SA and DA trigger pull too. Have done that to 2 of my Smiths and no issue with Winchester or CCI primers not going off. Of course the S&W elite tell you not to do this.
Re: Range Report: trick or treat
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:06 pm
by North Country Gal
I've done it, too, on a couple of my new Smiths that I used for target work, but with caution about light strikes and slowing down lock time too much. No need to do that on almost all my new Smiths I've bought, though, since I have been very fussy about testing the triggers on all my Smiths before buying and taking one home. And yeah, some of the newer Smiths I've tested had horrible, inexcusable triggers, though most of the new ones have been decent. Pretty rare to find a bad trigger on the vintage stuff, though.