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Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:53 am
by PT7
I've found that the revolver cleaning rods I have on hand are too short for my Ruger 22/45. The OAL of the pistol is 9.75", and I need a rod at least 12" to clean from back end of bolt to muzzle end.
Interested in a brass loop rod as I looked through J Dewey Rods web site.
https://deweyrods.com/product/22-calibe ... 24-inches/ The shortest rod I could find is 24" long that would clear the pistol's OAL 9.75" length. There is a 9" rod, but again, too short for the bull barrel Ruger.
Is anyone using a brass loop rod? How is it to hold and draw through a barrel? The rods I've used have a fixed round handle or a plastic "T" handle. The loop style looks like it would be not too hard to use. TIA.
PT7
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:05 am
by JEBar
interesting .... I didn't know there are loop rods out there .... looking forward to following this thread .... hopefully we do have members who have experience using them
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:29 am
by Mistered
interesting .... I didn't know there are loop rods out there
Yep - Back in the 'day' S & W used to include one with a couple tips and a little screwdriver with their new guns.
Don't know if they still do or not. I still have a couple of them.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:16 pm
by ESquared
No experience with this design, but it appears that the loop is just the handle. I've always favored a T-Handled rod, made of aluminum, as it rotates and allows the brush and patch to follow the rifling of the barrel (at least in principle). Also seems like it would be easier on the hands than a round brass loop.
I'm no metallurgist, but my perception is that aluminum is softer than brass, and I'd rather have as soft a material as possible shoving stuff through my barrels.
But, you can throw all this in the "free advice" folder, PT, as it's all personal preference. If you like the look and feel, it was meant to be!
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:23 pm
by Mags
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So with the cleaning attachments (mops, jags, patch holders, etc) isn't the overall length of the rod/attachment about 11 inches?
PT7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:53 am
I've found that the revolver cleaning rods I have on hand are too short for my Ruger 22/45. The OAL of the pistol is 9.75", and I need a rod at least 12" to clean from back end of bolt to muzzle end.
Interested in a brass loop rod as I looked through J Dewey Rods web site.
https://deweyrods.com/product/22-calibe ... 24-inches/ The shortest rod I could find is 24" long that would clear the pistol's OAL 9.75" length. There is a 9" rod, but again, too short for the bull barrel Ruger.
Is anyone using a brass loop rod? How is it to hold and draw through a barrel? The rods I've used have a fixed round handle or a plastic "T" handle. The loop style looks like it would be not too hard to use. TIA.
PT7
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:29 pm
by Mistered
So with the cleaning attachments (mops, jags, patch holders, etc) isn't the overall length of the rod/attachment about 11 inches?
Kinda what I was thinking also.
OR - if you have a three piece .22 rifle rifle cleaning rod just screw an extra section to the 'tip' section and now you have a rod long enough!
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:42 pm
by clovishound
I recently got a Pro Shot polished stainless steel pistol cleaning rod. I got tired of wearing out the aluminum ones. They come in various lengths, so it's easy to get the size you want.
This is a heavy duty cleaning rod that should last the rest of my shooting career. It has a round handle that rotates with the rifling. When using a tight fitting jag, I don't have to worry about the rod bending, or the threads deforming.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:10 pm
by Mags
I use only soft metal cleaning rods.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:56 pm
by clovishound
Mags wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:10 pm
I use only soft metal cleaning rods.
I understand the thinking on that. However, I don't think a polished SS rod will mar the inside of a barrel.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:03 am
by Mags
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more like chafing the muzzle crown
clovishound wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:56 pm
Mags wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:10 pm
I use only soft metal cleaning rods.
I understand the thinking on that. However, I don't think a polished SS rod will mar the inside of a barrel.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:26 am
by Mistered
more like chafing the muzzle crown
It would take a lot of effort to damage a muzzle crown with a cleaning rod - much less if it were polished stainless steel. Used normally no issue.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:44 am
by clovishound
Mags wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:03 am
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more like chafing the muzzle crown
clovishound wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:56 pm
Mags wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:10 pm
I use only soft metal cleaning rods.
I understand the thinking on that. However, I don't think a polished SS rod will mar the inside of a barrel.
That's why you use a bore guide. The more likely damage in my mind is grit that is picked up by the cleaning rod, regardless of hardness of the material.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:39 am
by Henry88
There are more opinions on cleaning rods than there are.....well you know..............LOL
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:44 am
by Henry88
clovishound wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:44 am
The more likely damage in my mind is grit that is picked up by the cleaning rod, regardless of hardness of the material.
If that is true, and it very well may be, then you should never use a bore snake more than once?
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:15 pm
by Mistered
If that is true, and it very well may be, then you should never use a bore snake more than once?
Always a good idea to 'clean' your cleaning tools before using them - to remove any potential grit, dirt etc. they may pick up from lying around.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:48 pm
by Mags
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Of course, but just more cleaning kit parts to keep track of and not misplace. Plus several guides if one owns multiple calibers of firearms.
clovishound wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:44 am
That's why you use a bore guide. ...
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:50 pm
by Mags
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get/use ones with fiberglass bristles.
Henry88 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:44 am
clovishound wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:44 am
The more likely damage in my mind is grit that is picked up by the cleaning rod, regardless of hardness of the material.
If that is true, and it very well may be, then you should never use a bore snake more than once?
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:03 pm
by Lyman
Brass is all I ever used for 30 or so years. I lost mine and couldn't find it. I now use a 3 pc aluminum. Works just as good.
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:46 am
by PT7
For my Qs, I believe I got closest to what I wanted to know from ESquared. He "has no experience" with a loop rod, and perceives "it would not be easy on the hands."
However, with all the preferences expressed, got some helpful pointers which I'll look at. I've not been able to find a loop rod in a local LGS to handle one, and on-line I cannot locate any with
my best length for use on my 22/45. So without availability, do need another option. Clovishound's preference below is where I'll head next. Primary needs are one-piece rod with approx. 12" length. Shall see what I see.
Finally to JEBar. Your not knowing that there are "loop rods out there" was a telling point. Guess they just are not that highly-used or popular. The design simply caught my eye.
Thanks for working on this issue with me, Henry Folk.
PT7
ESquared wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:16 pm
No experience with this design, but it appears that the loop is just the handle. I've always favored a T-Handled rod, made of aluminum, as it rotates and allows the brush and patch to follow the rifling of the barrel (at least in principle).
Also seems like it would be easier on the hands than a round brass loop.
I'm no metallurgist, but my perception is that aluminum is softer than brass, and I'd rather have as soft a material as possible shoving stuff through my barrels.
But, you can throw all this in the "free advice" folder, PT, as it's all personal preference. If you like the look and feel, it was meant to be!
clovishound wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:42 pm
I recently got a Pro Shot polished stainless steel pistol cleaning rod....
They come in various lengths, so it's easy to get the size you want.
JEBar wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:05 am
interesting ....
I didn't know there are loop rods out there .... looking forward to following this thread .... hopefully we do have members who have experience using them
Re: Experience with brass loop cleaning rod
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:03 am
by ESquared
Always here to help!
I think Ed hit on it above, and it's "back to basics" with a simple Hoppe's kit for 22 Cal, with a three-piece aluminum rod, T-Handle and the rest of the goodies. Just use 2 of the 3 sections and you're all set.
https://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-Cleaning- ... 53&sr=8-16