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Instruction manual (Henry Long Ranger) says run a cleaning rod down the barrel from the breech toward the muzzle.
Manual also indicates "Do not attempt to take your firearm further apart than explained in this manual".
Manual also states "You do not have to disassemble this rifle in order to clean it sufficiently and keep it operating properly"

I use stiff carbon fiber cleaning rods and do not believe that the rod should touch the rifles bore.

How you gonna do that??

Use a bore snake.

Yep, bore snake or Otis Rip Cord or similar. That's about the only way around it.

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It is fine for a soft metal or fiber rod to touch the bore. Not ok for hard metal rods like steel.
As for how, see the other post with your same question.
http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... 328#p97328

Bad Bob wrote: ↑

Sat May 25, 2019 12:34 pm

Instruction manual (Henry Long Ranger) says run a cleaning rod down the barrel from the breech toward the muzzle.
Manual also indicates "Do not attempt to take your firearm further apart than explained in this manual".
Manual also states "You do not have to disassemble this rifle in order to clean it sufficiently and keep it operating properly"

I use stiff carbon fiber cleaning rods and do not believe that the rod should touch the rifles bore.

How you gonna do that??

I use these on my steel rods. Also, although I don't do it every cleaning it's not that difficult to disassemble the receiver for a more thorough cleaning. There's some good disassembly videos on Youtube and I think there's even one on Henry's site.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=brass+bore+g ... _ss_i_1_16

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A Long Ranger shouldn't be disassembled, its not like the other Henry rifles internally. Disassembly runs the risk of messing up the gear timing with the bolt carrier and rotating bolt.

There isn't a cleaning video on the HenryUSA website for the LongRanger, but the .45-70 cleaning video is an example of how to clean even an LR.
https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... 010-h010b/

dave77 wrote: ↑

Sat May 25, 2019 12:58 pm

I use these on my steel rods. Also, although I don't do it every cleaning it's not that difficult to disassemble the receiver for a more thorough cleaning. There's some good disassembly videos on Youtube and I think there's even one on Henry's site.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=brass+bore+g ... _ss_i_1_16

I will use a bore snake, but I think that Henry needs to review their Instruction manual or post a "How To Video" for this very expensive rifle....

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Ya have to agree with that. They are a little behind on their instructional videos as well as posting of PDF owner manuals for the newer models.

Bad Bob wrote: ↑

Sat May 25, 2019 1:17 pm

I will use a bore snake, but I think that Henry needs to review their Instruction manual or post a "How To Video" for this very expensive rifle....

Otis system works great for me.

How you gonna do that??

Open the action and clean from the MUZZLE to the breech.

It is fine for a soft metal or fiber rod to touch the bore. Not ok for hard metal rods like steel.

Ditto this^

Muzzle to breech is NOT O.K. per instruction manual!! The manual needs clarification/update, period!

Muzzle to breech is NOT O.K. per instruction manual!!

What is the stated reason (per instruction manual) it is NOT OK?

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Not sure what cleaning clarification is needed in the manual. It's clear enough. "Pull through cleaning kits or cleaning with a rod breach to muzzle" is recommended. A gunsmith is recommended when a more thorough disassembly cleaning/inspection is needed.

Bad Bob wrote: ↑

Sat May 25, 2019 2:41 pm

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Muzzle to breech is NOT O.K. per instruction manual!! The manual needs clarification/update, period!

You know and I know that the way to clean the bore is with a pull-thru/bore snake BUT IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE MANUAL.
That's my point!

BUT IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE MANUAL.

Manuals, for nearly anything, are GUIDELINES and not DIRECTIVES.

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Right, "Bore Snake" is not mentioned in the manual. But it is inferred. Do a web search for "pull through cleaning kit". Guess what, they got bore snakes in em'.

Bad Bob wrote: ↑

Sun May 26, 2019 6:54 pm

You know and I know that the way to clean the bore is with a pull-thru/bore snake BUT IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE MANUAL.
That's my point!

FWIW, manual states that if you run a brush or patch from the muzzle end you will push dirt/residue and moisture into the chamber and receiver. THIS IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF STUCK CASES OR OTHER PROBLEMS.
Quote: "If you push or pull a brush back toward the chamber, you will notice the bush will throw the debris from the bore back into the chamber. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE THIS RIFLE IN ORDER TO CLEAN IT SUFFICIENTLY AND KEEP T OPERATING PROPERLY."

Again manuals are guidelines and not directives.
I have been cleaning from the muzzle to the breech all my shooting 'life' - however I have never owned a rifle I could not access the chamber to clean it. If you were really concerned about pushing debris into the chamber you could chamber an empty case to prevent it but regardless of the method used to clean the bore does the manual outline directions to clean the chamber if they do not want it disassembled?
Chambers need to be cleaned as well as part of the cleaning process and about the only way to do this if you cannot access it to run a rod through it will be to use a 'flex brush'. A flex brush has plastic bristles on a twisted wire stem that can be bent to access the chamber through the ejection port. Not as good as being able to access the chamber vertically but an acceptable alternative if you do not want to remove the bolt assembly.

I think we can all agree the LR Manual leaves a lot to be desired. Probably not entirely coincidental that it's not available online, unlike pretty much the rest of Henry's established lines of levers.
While it's certainly unclear about cleaning and use of rods, etc., what it's not clear enough about it advising owners NOT to try to disassemble the bolt/lever/spur gear assembly.
My experience with cleaning from the muzzle to the chamber is that doing that with a brush is completely different than using a patch. Once those bristles clear the bore, stuff can (and does) fly everywhere in places where you don't want stuff to be. A patch lends itself to a much more controllable process and less "stuff-flinging" (an official gun-smithing term, I'm told).
Suffice it to say that the manual is best left aside, and a bore snake (or equivalent) is best for cleaning the bore, while patches-n-picks-n-such will do a great job on the chamber without even trying to take the darn thing apart. A little grease on that huge bolt that comes ratcheting out the back, and you're good to go!

When cleaning from muzzle to breech, use a brass muzzle guard and you're GTG. This isn't difficult to figure out. Or as we have already read here, bore snake. Viola!