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Is the side mounted 94-36 lower than the too mounted 336.

I'd like to use the origanal front sight.

Is the side mounted 94-36 lower than the too mounted 336.

What rifle are you referring to mounting a Williams sight on?

Oh sorry. A Zane Grey Century. 30-30. A tapered octagon in a 336 receiver on a pistol grip but stock. The front sight is dove tailed not on ramp so even though it a tall sight it relatively low. With a Williams 336 sight at it's lowest setting poi is somewhere near 400 yards.
With a below max 150 Grainer.
I thought I read somewhere the 94-36 sight mounted lower.

Yes, the FP (side-mounted) is lower. Have yet to need to change out a front sight with this model and have used them on over a dozen rifles. The top-mounted 336 is much more likely to need a different front sight. Not always, but sometimes. About half the time on rifles I've equipped with the 336.

Have yet to need to change out a front sight with this model and have used them on over a dozen rifles.

Same here - the 94/36 side mount has a wide range of elevation which is an advantage. Here is one of mine on a mod 94.

Thank you NCG! I ordered one.
I have three 336's. all with the Williams 336s receiver sights. The two 30-30s I had to get taller front sights. The 35 Remington did not need a change.
The ZG has a tall,almost half an inch, thin blade with the smallest bead on top. Gives a great sight picture even "way out there" where other beads turn into manhole covers.

You're welcome. Let us know how it shoots for you.

I am however becoming a fan of the basic, square 'blade' front with the Williams sight as it allows me a 'flat' spot with which to set my target on for a '6:00' sight profile as opposed to having a 'bead' front which are great but make it a little more difficult with the 6:00 sight position. This is a recent swap out off of a Winchester I have and I am really liking it but opinions may vary!

This is the front sight it .4 inches tall.

Usually when I hear of some one that has to change the front sight to a higher one is when using a Williams top mount peep. The side mount rarely needs the higher front on a Marlin unless it is a Marlin Glenfield or any of the models that use the dove tailed low front sight as a lot of the store brand Marlins had. The Zane Grey model has a fairly tall front and should work fine especially with the side mount. I don't care for the top mount unless the gun is new enough that it is not side drilled for a peep. I don't have a problem with my Zane Grey it has a Leupold 1-4x20 straight tube on it with Weaver rings and base.

The front sight on my '68 RC has a Williams fire site on the ramp. Ramp and all it stands .60 inches tall
2 tenths taller than the ZG.
That's like a 25 MOA difference for the ZG.

I'm not a fan of bead front sights, either. Much prefer a flat blade for accuracy work. On any rifle that I own that has a dovetail fit front sight, it gets a globe sight added, quick. That gives me the option of different blade widths and styles.

Just to hedge my bet I ordered a taller sight from Skinner.

Ojaileveraction wrote:Is the side mounted 94-36 lower than the too mounted 336.

I'd like to use the origanal front sight.

The height of the aperature at it's lowest setting is the same on both.

Beech Creek Gary wrote:

Ojaileveraction wrote:Is the side mounted 94-36 lower than the too mounted 336.

I'd like to use the origanal front sight.

The height of the aperature at it's lowest setting is the same on both.

I well find out in a few days.
Thank you

So the Williams 94/36 receiver sight I bought through Amazon is not lower, or even low as, because it doesn't fit squarely on the receiver, catywonkus is the tech term.

I ordered a fp/tk this looks like a 5d with target knobs added. There is no through hole for an extended elevation screw like most FP models have.

because it doesn't fit squarely on the receiver,

Is this particular model of Marlin drilled and tapped for the 94/36? It most likely should be. Please post a side view pic of the sight on the receiver.

because it doesn't fit squarely on the receiver, The left side of the sight elevator is hitting the edge off the receiver.
Compared to the space on the right side.

That is not right! I would call Williams and send
Them this picture. It would be easy to shim it out but it appears to me the mount is a couple thou too thin.

The sight elevator on the 336 model and the 94/36 Williams sights are the same demesions as far as I can measure. They look like the same part.
I put the top mounted 336 model back on and changed out the original front sight with a Skinner I'm going to save the 94/36 Williams for any Winnie 94 that may be in my future.

Buy a rifle for a sight, that's a good reason/excuse.