Sharps
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:49 pm
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That was a very nice thing for you to do for your late friend's wife.Travlin wrote:My late friend had two of their rifles that were made when they were still in Farmington N.Y. One was a 45-120 and the other a 50-140. They were beautiful rifles and I sent them to the gun auction in Lakeland Fl. to help out his widow.
I had 50-70 Sharps # 2112 made in Farmington N.Y . I shot it for almost 30 yrs and the workmanship and steel was 5X better then the original rifle . The new sharps today is the best and well worth the money they are asking for them .Travlin wrote:My late friend had two of their rifles that were made when they were still in Farmington N.Y. One was a 45-120 and the other a 50-140. They were beautiful rifles and I sent them to the gun auction in Lakeland Fl. to help out his widow.
I only shot 15.0 of Unique in my 50-70 Sharps . My sharps NEVER seen a black powder charge in it in the time I owned it .JEBar wrote:I like their 1874 QUIGLEY model .... https://shilohrifle.com/rifles/1874-sha ... -clone-en/ but I don't like it enough to justify spending $3,533.00 .... I wonder what level 45-70 ammo these Shiloh Sharps are built for .... I can understand the purist being interested in black powder versions but for me having to use black powder would instantly eliminate it from consideration


If you are going to shoot smokeless powder get the 45-70 or 50-70 caliber with a short barrel . The brass is super cheap and easy to find . Loaded with like 13 .0 of Unique there is ZERO kick and is super accurate boot and lots of fun . To get magnum performance with black powder you need the long 34" barrel and 45-110 or 45-120 cartridge and it will kick the hell out of you . The rifle below the barrel is 50 cailber flint barrel 36" long 1 turn in 72" to burn up 120 gr plus of 2FF . I got my deer at over 80 yds with a patched round ball .JEBar wrote:beautiful work indeed .... I believe Quigley's was supposed to be chambered in 45-110 .... knowing how hard a 45-70 kicks, a 45-110 must really be something


congrats, remarkable shooting .... we have a TC 50 caliber Hawken .... we used patched round balls pushed by FFF, don't recall how much .... took deer with it at +/- 40 yards, longest range I remember punching paper was about 50 yard .... not saying I won't ever get back into black powder shooting but don't see it coming ....tx gunrunner wrote:The rifle below the barrel is 50 cailber flint barrel 36" long 1 turn in 72" to burn up 120 gr plus of 2FF . I got my deer at over 80 yds with a patched round ball .
The TC Hawken is a super gun . They use a 1 in turn in 48" and it will shoot both round ball or slug if you keep charge around 80 gr of powder . To get a round ball at 2000 fps you need 1 turn in 66" or 72" and 120 gr of 2F . Slug black powder guns 1 turn in 18" to 30" works best depending on the length and weight of bullet . This is a quick reference and not in stone . Look at the deep craters in this steel target . Pure lead and around 2000 FPS cause deep crater not bullet weight .JEBar wrote:congrats, remarkable shooting .... we have a TC 50 caliber Hawken .... we used patched round balls pushed by FFF, don't recall how much .... took deer with it at +/- 40 yards, longest range I remember punching paper was about 50 yard .... not saying I won't ever get back into black powder shooting but don't see it coming ....tx gunrunner wrote:The rifle below the barrel is 50 cailber flint barrel 36" long 1 turn in 72" to burn up 120 gr plus of 2FF . I got my deer at over 80 yds with a patched round ball .
