ammo tariffs

[dave77]

I've got around 300 lbs of lead left over from my black powder days. Shipping cost would probably be too high to send it to anyone. It's small ingots which fill a plastic milk carton maybe ¾ full, I can slide it but wouldn't even attempt to lift it. It's very pure as it is from a big load of stained glass cane me and a couple other guys melted down. I should see if I can find anyone local that would want it, probably worth at least a couple hundred bucks.

[Vaquero]

I've got around 300 lbs of lead left over from my black powder days. Shipping cost would probably be too high to send it to anyone. It's small ingots which fill a plastic milk carton maybe ¾ full, I can slide it but wouldn't even attempt to lift it. It's very pure as it is from a big load of stained glass cane me and a couple other guys melted down. I should see if I can find anyone local that would want it, probably worth at least a couple hundred bucks.

Sure it it, it will easily bring .75 to a dollar a pound.
I bought some pure lead last year, I gave .80 per lb., for 100 lb.
Then last Oct. I scored 400 lbs. of smelted wheel weight lead for .50 a lb. which was dirt cheap.
If I were closer I'd buy it.

RP

[Mags]

I've got around 300 lbs of lead left over from my black powder days. Shipping cost would probably be too high to send it to anyone. It's small ingots which fill a plastic milk carton maybe ¾ full, ....

USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate boxes. If it fits, it ships regardless of weight under 70lbs. Three box sizes. Sm $10.65; Md $19.15; Lr $23.95
Probably should use the small one. It has a volume of about 100 cu inches. Sm box full of lead is going to weigh about 41 lbs.

[fortyshooter]

My latest pistol is a .380 Colt Mustang and while the range ammo it likes is still available at 19.99 per box of 50 at my LGS I am getting all I can since I don't think I will be reloading for it. I bought 4 boxes today and at my birthday dinner this evening my son gave me 2 more plus a nice holster.

[GunnyGene]

My latest pistol is a .380 Colt Mustang and while the range ammo it likes is still available at 19.99 per box of 50 at my LGS I am getting all I can since I don't think I will be reloading for it. I bought 4 boxes today and at my birthday dinner this evening my son gave me 2 more plus a nice holster.

I made my very first ammo "Panic Buy" yesterday, just to see what it felt like. Didn't really need anything but it got me out of the house for an hour. From Gary's in Columbus. They had a S&W sale going on so quite few people in the shop. Picked up 10 boxes of12 gauge Rio #4 buck cause I didn't have any #4, and 500rnd of Fiocchi .38grn cphp for a little under $75 including tax (Fiocci was $39.90. A little under 8cents/rnd) Who knows, maybe I can trade it for chickens or something later this year or next.

[cooperhawk]

Interesting.
I had no reason to know that, but it struck me as curious, so I did a quick search to find out why the US doesn't mine lead.

Well, I guess times change. I was going on information I got 10 or so years ago when lead prices shot up so quickly. Our local shotgun
range actually brought in a mining outfit that scooped up the soil and using a centrifuge they were able to extract lead shot from
the soil. They took several semi loads of lead out of the ground and made quite a bit of money at it too.

I'm happy to learn we are mining lead, but not happy we are importing so much as well. I would rather we would be self sufficient
with crucial resources like that.

[Sir Henry]

Interesting.
I had no reason to know that, but it struck me as curious, so I did a quick search to find out why the US doesn't mine lead.

Well, I guess times change. I was going on information I got 10 or so years ago when lead prices shot up so quickly. Our local shotgun
range actually brought in a mining outfit that scooped up the soil and using a centrifuge they were able to extract lead shot from
the soil. They took several semi loads of lead out of the ground and made quite a bit of money at it too.

I'm happy to learn we are mining lead, but not happy we are importing so much as well. I would rather we would be self sufficient
with crucial resources like that.

A very large percentage of our past mines are now superfund sites. It’s not easy for the U.S. to compete against countries without basic environmental laws. I would not move to Kellogg, ID or Butte, MT or a number of other past mining towns. Keep the smelters out of my home town. Instead do the manufacturing near me. Take China’s minerals and leave the toxic mining in China and bring the manufacturing here. If China’s only source of export is minerals we can dictate to them prices.

We don’t need to be 100% self sufficient. Just 90% and not like the current 20%.

I’m talking economics and environment not politics although I do admit I’m close to it.

[BigAl52]

As soon as we bring the manufacturing here they sell out to foreign super powers. For instance Vista Outdoors. Now own by the Czechs

[BigAl52]

I found this with a search on the net.
While a significant portion of lead mined in the US is used for lead-acid storage batteries, ammunition accounts for a smaller but still substantial share, estimated at around 3% of total US lead consumption.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Lead-Acid Batteries Dominate:
Lead-acid batteries, like those in cars, are the largest consumer of lead, representing about 88% of US lead consumption in the early 2000s.
Ammunition's Share:
Ammunition, including bullets and shot, accounts for about 3% of US lead consumption.
Other Uses:
Other significant uses of lead include oxides in glass and ceramics (3%), casting metals (2%), and sheet lead (1%).
Secondary Lead Sources:
A significant portion of the lead used in ammunition comes from recycled batteries and other scrap sources, not from primary lead mining.
Mining Decline Lead production in the US has declined compared to 2010 levels, but the US remains the third-largest lead mining country in the world.

[Hatchdog]

The Lucky Friday mine is only a couple of hours away from my place. I’ll do a little looking into what the production is. Mining used to be a huge industry in both northern Idaho and eastern Washington. It has declined tremendously.

[GunnyGene]

I found this with a search on the net.
While a significant portion of lead mined in the US is used for lead-acid storage batteries, ammunition accounts for a smaller but still substantial share, estimated at around 3% of total US lead consumption.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Lead-Acid Batteries Dominate:
Lead-acid batteries, like those in cars, are the largest consumer of lead, representing about 88% of US lead consumption in the early 2000s.
Ammunition's Share:
Ammunition, including bullets and shot, accounts for about 3% of US lead consumption.
Other Uses:
Other significant uses of lead include oxides in glass and ceramics (3%), casting metals (2%), and sheet lead (1%).
Secondary Lead Sources:
A significant portion of the lead used in ammunition comes from recycled batteries and other scrap sources, not from primary lead mining.
Mining Decline Lead production in the US has declined compared to 2010 levels, but the US remains the third-largest lead mining country in the world.

There's more than just the metals that are often sourced from other countries. Precursor chemicals for smokeless powder for example. And don't forget the rare earth minerals (batteries) used in things like red dots and weapon mounted lights and lasers among many other things that are used in many industries. The firearms industry competes for what it needs with many other non-firearm related industries world wide.

[BigAl52]

I found this with a search on the net.
While a significant portion of lead mined in the US is used for lead-acid storage batteries, ammunition accounts for a smaller but still substantial share, estimated at around 3% of total US lead consumption.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Lead-Acid Batteries Dominate:
Lead-acid batteries, like those in cars, are the largest consumer of lead, representing about 88% of US lead consumption in the early 2000s.
Ammunition's Share:
Ammunition, including bullets and shot, accounts for about 3% of US lead consumption.
Other Uses:
Other significant uses of lead include oxides in glass and ceramics (3%), casting metals (2%), and sheet lead (1%).
Secondary Lead Sources:
A significant portion of the lead used in ammunition comes from recycled batteries and other scrap sources, not from primary lead mining.
Mining Decline Lead production in the US has declined compared to 2010 levels, but the US remains the third-largest lead mining country in the world.

There's more than just the metals that are often sourced from other countries. Precursor chemicals for smokeless powder for example. And don't forget the rare earth minerals (batteries) used in things like red dots and weapon mounted lights and lasers among many other things that are used in many industries. The firearms industry competes for what it needs with many other non-firearm related industries world wide.

Im fully aware of other products that are imported to make powder ect for the firearms industry. My posting for the lead part was a response to a prior post

[The Wiz]

Went shooting on Sunday like I usually do and was curious what the
"regulars" would have to say about the tariffs. Nobody was in a panic mode as most of the guys keep a hefty supply anyway, mostly NATO stuff. What I did notice the volume going down range was dramatic. The time slots are 1 hour segments but most everyone was done after half hour or so including me. Just enough to get your "fix".

One other thing I noticed was the safety class that one has to take before you get your annual range had about 10 or so people. Usually half of that is the norm and more than half were women. I am glad to see that.

[Sir Henry]

I bought $201.88 worth of ammo today.

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Funny thing is I don’t even own anything that will shoot .22WMR shotshell.

[GFK]

I bought $201.88 worth of ammo today.
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Funny thing is I don’t even own anything that will shoot .22WMR shotshell.

Well, I guess that it is time to rectify that.

[BigAl52]

Door prizes for a big bash at Genes new garage.