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Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:37 pm
by GunnyGene
Like many other folks, I like to have a companion handgun for each of my pistol caliber long guns. Since my Ruger .45acp Carbine (Which I've posted about before) uses Glock21 magazines that meant buying a Glock 21 Gen5 MOS and a Holosun SCS reflex sight for it. Pistol found at my lgs. The SCS is on the way from MIdway. Bought both yesterday. :)

The Gen5 has several improvements over the earlier Gens, including a better trigger, flared magwell, hybrid hex/button rifling, no finger grooves, etc.

Haven't shot it yet. Waiting on the USPS to deliver the sight.

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Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:58 am
by Vaquero
Congrats on the new acquisitions, never been much of a Glock fan.
But, of the few I've shot, I did shoot them pretty well.

RP

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:20 am
by GunnyGene
Vaquero wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:58 am
Congrats on the new acquisitions, never been much of a Glock fan.
But, of the few I've shot, I did shoot them pretty well.

RP
Nor am I a fan, more of a Glock agnostic. And in this case there just wasn't any other choice due to magazine compatibility and a very good deal at my LGS Blue Label counter. This model typically is $600 and up. I paid $489. :)

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:09 am
by BrokenolMarine
Since the Department selected Glocks after a long T&E period, and I was one of the instructors who set up the trial and coordinated it... it came down to the Glock model 22 full size .40 caliber and the SIG P220 45acp. After reading the full reports, the Chief chose the Glock based on per unit cost and cost of ammunition projections.

I went to both Glock instructor school and armorer's school. I was initially impressed, and more so after a decade without a single issue. They aren't bullseye guns, but they are extremely reliable duty guns, accurate for their purpose, and weather resistant. (Better yet, Officer resistant.) :roll:

After about five years, we trade the Model 22s in for the Model 23s. We were allowed to buy our duty guns. I still have mine, and it's still going.

But, I'm still a big revolver fan as well.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:24 am
by Hatchdog
Congratulations on being able to buy with the Blue Label program. That’s wonderful that Glock offers it.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:01 pm
by Travlin
M y carry is a Glock 36 that belonged to my late friend. As he had three new magazine still in the wrapper , I thought that he must have thought highly of it . The fact that l load .45 ACP and have plenty of jacketed bullets made it a no brainer. But like others when I shoot a lot, I shoot a revolver.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:57 am
by GunnyGene
Travlin wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:01 pm
M y carry is a Glock 36 that belonged to my late friend. As he had three new magazine still in the wrapper , I thought that he must have thought highly of it . The fact that l load .45 ACP and have plenty of jacketed bullets made it a no brainer. But like others when I shoot a lot, I shoot a revolver.
I'm starting to think I made a mistake buying this G21. I've put about 150 rnds thru it so far, and it's accurate and generally functions well, but it has a nasty habit of ejecting rounds that occasionally will bounce off my head. Not painfully, but certainly irritating.

And if I fire a round without a magazine in, it will stovepipe or drop the spent case out thru the magwell, which is not something I've run into in any other pistol including the 9mm G34 I have. This is troubling behavior for a pistol I was planning as a house gun backup, but I may have to reconsider that. In any case it's not a good look for Glocks vaunted claim of "perfection".

I've contacted Glock about this behavior, but no reply so far (also disappointing).

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:46 am
by rickhem
I can remember guys talking about "tuning" the ejector on the Glocks. This turned into a comparison of tuning a 1911 ejector, like was done when everyone started shooting dot sights on their Bullseye pistols. But the buddies I had that shot the Glock matches all said there was a way to keep the brass from flying back at you, and it had to do with some small modifications to the ejector, or replacing it with a different generation ejector, or a different recoil spring, or maybe some combination of these. I'll say right now that I know next to nothing about Glocks, but I do remember those conversations, and how some guys got their Glocks ejecting to the side like other pistols did. I'm sure you're not the only one ever wanting to do this.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:38 am
by GunnyGene
rickhem wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:46 am
I can remember guys talking about "tuning" the ejector on the Glocks. This turned into a comparison of tuning a 1911 ejector, like was done when everyone started shooting dot sights on their Bullseye pistols. But the buddies I had that shot the Glock matches all said there was a way to keep the brass from flying back at you, and it had to do with some small modifications to the ejector, or replacing it with a different generation ejector, or a different recoil spring, or maybe some combination of these. I'll say right now that I know next to nothing about Glocks, but I do remember those conversations, and how some guys got their Glocks ejecting to the side like other pistols did. I'm sure you're not the only one ever wanting to do this.
Yes, I've also read several posts on other forums about tweaking various parts to "fix" what appears to be a somewhat common problem. But I didn't buy this gun for it to be 'project gun'. This is an issue for Glock to remedy, not something for me to diddle around with. Btw, the Glock Warranty stinks. They might as well not even have one at all.

https://us.glock.com/en/OWN/Warranty

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:49 am
by fortyshooter
45 ACP six shooter?

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:57 am
by GunnyGene
fortyshooter wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:49 am
45 ACP six shooter?
I actually considered that, but wanted a gun that took the same Glock mags as my Ruger LC Carbine.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 pm
by rickhem
GunnyGene wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:38 am
rickhem wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:46 am
I can remember guys talking about "tuning" the ejector on the Glocks. This turned into a comparison of tuning a 1911 ejector, like was done when everyone started shooting dot sights on their Bullseye pistols. But the buddies I had that shot the Glock matches all said there was a way to keep the brass from flying back at you, and it had to do with some small modifications to the ejector, or replacing it with a different generation ejector, or a different recoil spring, or maybe some combination of these. I'll say right now that I know next to nothing about Glocks, but I do remember those conversations, and how some guys got their Glocks ejecting to the side like other pistols did. I'm sure you're not the only one ever wanting to do this.
Yes, I've also read several posts on other forums about tweaking various parts to "fix" what appears to be a somewhat common problem. But I didn't buy this gun for it to be 'project gun'. This is an issue for Glock to remedy, not something for me to diddle around with. Btw, the Glock Warranty stinks. They might as well not even have one at all.

https://us.glock.com/en/OWN/Warranty
I completely understand, and I get where you're coming from.
As a brand new, fresh out of the box from the LGS, direct from the manufacturer firearm, they can get the first chance to fix it. But very often you'll hear "it meets all specifications" when you get it back. You aren't doing anything special with it, and not using it for any kind of specific discipline which would benefit from modifications, you just don't want to get beaned every time it ejects. I've shot pistols that did that, and it's distracting as hell.
I hope they can take care of it for you Gene.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:24 pm
by GunnyGene
rickhem wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 pm
GunnyGene wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:38 am
rickhem wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:46 am
I can remember guys talking about "tuning" the ejector on the Glocks. This turned into a comparison of tuning a 1911 ejector, like was done when everyone started shooting dot sights on their Bullseye pistols. But the buddies I had that shot the Glock matches all said there was a way to keep the brass from flying back at you, and it had to do with some small modifications to the ejector, or replacing it with a different generation ejector, or a different recoil spring, or maybe some combination of these. I'll say right now that I know next to nothing about Glocks, but I do remember those conversations, and how some guys got their Glocks ejecting to the side like other pistols did. I'm sure you're not the only one ever wanting to do this.
Yes, I've also read several posts on other forums about tweaking various parts to "fix" what appears to be a somewhat common problem. But I didn't buy this gun for it to be 'project gun'. This is an issue for Glock to remedy, not something for me to diddle around with. Btw, the Glock Warranty stinks. They might as well not even have one at all.

https://us.glock.com/en/OWN/Warranty
I completely understand, and I get where you're coming from.
As a brand new, fresh out of the box from the LGS, direct from the manufacturer firearm, they can get the first chance to fix it. But very often you'll hear "it meets all specifications" when you get it back. You aren't doing anything special with it, and not using it for any kind of specific discipline which would benefit from modifications, you just don't want to get beaned every time it ejects. I've shot pistols that did that, and it's distracting as hell.
I hope they can take care of it for you Gene.
I hope they do also, but I'm not counting on it. I'll take part of the blame for this experience since I didn't do my usual in depth pre-purchase homework. All I'd ever heard was how great Glocks were; "Glock Perfection" and all that other marketing crap that I should have ignored.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:43 pm
by Ernie
I am not impressed with the warranty. You are correct, it is pretty much nonexistent.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:52 pm
by Travlin
I keep my Glock with a round in the chamber even when it's put away and I was worried that the spring that fires it would become weak. I called Glock and they put me through one of the tech guys and he told me " nothing to worry about" so I don't and it always goes bang when I need it to.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:35 am
by Mags
I once bought a Glock 42. I wasn't impressed. It's the only firearm I got rid of.

Re: Companion piece for a non-Henry rifle

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:51 am
by GunnyGene
rickhem wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 pm
GunnyGene wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:38 am
rickhem wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:46 am
I can remember guys talking about "tuning" the ejector on the Glocks. This turned into a comparison of tuning a 1911 ejector, like was done when everyone started shooting dot sights on their Bullseye pistols. But the buddies I had that shot the Glock matches all said there was a way to keep the brass from flying back at you, and it had to do with some small modifications to the ejector, or replacing it with a different generation ejector, or a different recoil spring, or maybe some combination of these. I'll say right now that I know next to nothing about Glocks, but I do remember those conversations, and how some guys got their Glocks ejecting to the side like other pistols did. I'm sure you're not the only one ever wanting to do this.
Yes, I've also read several posts on other forums about tweaking various parts to "fix" what appears to be a somewhat common problem. But I didn't buy this gun for it to be 'project gun'. This is an issue for Glock to remedy, not something for me to diddle around with. Btw, the Glock Warranty stinks. They might as well not even have one at all.

https://us.glock.com/en/OWN/Warranty
I completely understand, and I get where you're coming from.
As a brand new, fresh out of the box from the LGS, direct from the manufacturer firearm, they can get the first chance to fix it. But very often you'll hear "it meets all specifications" when you get it back. You aren't doing anything special with it, and not using it for any kind of specific discipline which would benefit from modifications, you just don't want to get beaned every time it ejects. I've shot pistols that did that, and it's distracting as hell.
I hope they can take care of it for you Gene.
Still haven't gotten a reply from Glock, but I did find a video about how to fix the BTF issue. Looked reasonable and not difficult, so I'll be doing what he recommends, except for the ejector. The G21 gen 5 ejector is a completely different design, so can't take a file to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5P0Pfz1s8