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Went to the Dark Side
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I thought I'd never own one but with the recent events in TX I purchased one of these today. Radical Firearms 556 16 MLOK 30. They're made in the neighboring city of Stafford about 3 mi from where I live. Already ordered the accessories:
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A Plus....Nice to have the manufacturer next door, Jake.
From your rifle name, .556 Nato caliber, right? What's the magazine capacity, or is that variable?
Yea, accessories. I've never had one of these rifles, but have shot my SIL's 9MM rifle. He does have a number of add-ons, but I couldn't name them all. The one thing I'm certain is that it carries a suppressor. Incredible how quiet that makes a 9MM!
What are your plans? From what I've seen at the LGS, lots of choices for mods on these. I don't think I'd even know where to start! Have fun building and re-building.
PT7
From your rifle name, .556 Nato caliber, right? What's the magazine capacity, or is that variable?
Yea, accessories. I've never had one of these rifles, but have shot my SIL's 9MM rifle. He does have a number of add-ons, but I couldn't name them all. The one thing I'm certain is that it carries a suppressor. Incredible how quiet that makes a 9MM!
What are your plans? From what I've seen at the LGS, lots of choices for mods on these. I don't think I'd even know where to start! Have fun building and re-building.
PT7
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Yes, it's a .223/5.56 and comes with a 30 round magazine. They have a lot of different offerings:
https://www.radicalfirearms.com/
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Re: Went to the Dark Side
Congrats on your new acquisition John if it makes you feel better.Shakey Jake wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:47 pmI thought I'd never own one but with the recent events in TX I purchased one of these today. Radical Firearms 556 16 MLOK 30. They're made in the neighboring city of Stafford about 3 mi from where I live. Already ordered the accessories:
Please, no offense intended, I just happen to feel perfectly safe, if needed, with the arms I have.
Good amount of fire power there though. Hope Ya never need it.
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No offense taken, Sir!
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Welcome to the 'dark side' sir! To be honest I have mixed feelings about being an AR owner at times. But, I sure have enjoyed competing in three-gun competitions with my kids this year, and using an AR in the rifle section of the comp is about the only way to go if you want to be competitive. My wife refuses to call it an AR, she calls it a CSR (Competition Sport Rifle) and that is how we use them.Shakey Jake wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:47 pmI thought I'd never own one but with the recent events in TX I purchased one of these today. Radical Firearms 556 16 MLOK 30. They're made in the neighboring city of Stafford about 3 mi from where I live. Already ordered the accessories:
Being part of our local firearms sporting community has been great for my kids. How often do you see 15 year old girls competing against 65 year old men in a sport? Yet, that is three gun in our neck of the woods. Everyone has been positive, encouraging, and respectful, while all the time being surrounded by AR's, Shotguns and semi-auto pistols. As we know there are many positive sides to firearms that are not shown at all in the media or the culture. Firearms (and hunting) have brought the generations in my family together in numerous unique ways.
One definite positive is that my 4 kids really like hanging out with old guys and firearms. And that has been nothing but good in our lives.
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Need a good suggestion for a tatical gun case if you have one. Thanks. JakeGreyhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:25 pmWelcome to the 'dark side' sir! To be honest I have mixed feelings about being an AR owner at times. But, I sure have enjoyed competing in three-gun competitions with my kids this year, and using an AR in the rifle section of the comp is about the only way to go if you want to be competitive. My wife refuses to call it an AR, she calls it a CSR (Competition Sport Rifle) and that is how we use them.Shakey Jake wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:47 pmI thought I'd never own one but with the recent events in TX I purchased one of these today. Radical Firearms 556 16 MLOK 30. They're made in the neighboring city of Stafford about 3 mi from where I live. Already ordered the accessories:
Being part of our local firearms sporting community has been great for my kids. How often do you see 15 year old girls competing against 65 year old men in a sport? Yet, that is three gun in our neck of the woods. Everyone has been positive, encouraging, and respectful, while all the time being surrounded by AR's, Shotguns and semi-auto pistols. As we know there are many positive sides to firearms that are not shown at all in the media or the culture. Firearms (and hunting) have brought the generations in my family together in numerous unique ways.
One definite positive is that my 4 kids really like hanging out with old guys and firearms. And that has been nothing but good in our lives.
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looking forward to seeing it in January
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Like you, I've never really had an interest in them, but I built one before the last presidential election. It was fun for awhile, but I haven't picked it up since the new wore off. I'm a lever guy plain and simple.
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Well my favorite case is featured in the post 'AR Case' under the 'Good Deals' section of the forum.Shakey Jake wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:27 pmNeed a good suggestion for a tatical gun case if you have one. Thanks. JakeGreyhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:25 pmWelcome to the 'dark side' sir! To be honest I have mixed feelings about being an AR owner at times. But, I sure have enjoyed competing in three-gun competitions with my kids this year, and using an AR in the rifle section of the comp is about the only way to go if you want to be competitive. My wife refuses to call it an AR, she calls it a CSR (Competition Sport Rifle) and that is how we use them.Shakey Jake wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:47 pmI thought I'd never own one but with the recent events in TX I purchased one of these today. Radical Firearms 556 16 MLOK 30. They're made in the neighboring city of Stafford about 3 mi from where I live. Already ordered the accessories:
Being part of our local firearms sporting community has been great for my kids. How often do you see 15 year old girls competing against 65 year old men in a sport? Yet, that is three gun in our neck of the woods. Everyone has been positive, encouraging, and respectful, while all the time being surrounded by AR's, Shotguns and semi-auto pistols. As we know there are many positive sides to firearms that are not shown at all in the media or the culture. Firearms (and hunting) have brought the generations in my family together in numerous unique ways.
One definite positive is that my 4 kids really like hanging out with old guys and firearms. And that has been nothing but good in our lives.
Check it out and let me know what you think. It truly is by far my favorite case.
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Three-gun competition is a great sport, Greyhawk! And yes, the AR suits it just fine. Glad to hear your kids are involved in it. Let your wife know she picked quite an interesting moniker in using "CSR."Greyhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:25 pm
Welcome to the 'dark side' sir! To be honest I have mixed feelings about being an AR owner at times. But, I sure have enjoyed competing in three-gun competitions with my kids this year, and using an AR in the rifle section of the comp is about the only way to go if you want to be competitive. My wife refuses to call it an AR, she calls it a CSR (Competition Sport Rifle) and that is how we use them.
Being part of our local firearms sporting community has been great for my kids. How often do you see 15 year old girls competing against 65 year old men in a sport? Yet, that is three gun in our neck of the woods. Everyone has been positive, encouraging, and respectful, while all the time being surrounded by AR's, Shotguns and semi-auto pistols. As we know there are many positive sides to firearms that are not shown at all in the media or the culture. Firearms (and hunting) have brought the generations in my family together in numerous unique ways.
One definite positive is that my 4 kids really like hanging out with old guys and firearms. And that has been nothing but good in our lives.
I'd like to find out what shotgun you/they use in your competition? That was the coolest firearm for me used in this sport. I used a Benelli 12ga Pump, and always was challenged when having to reload it...even with a mag capacity of 7. It was a blast to take out a wooden door and the ground flip targets in the s/g part.
Sure hope the kids keep after it. The younger age is a definite ++plus++ to doing well in this active sport,
Enjoy!
PT7
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Careful Jake I never thought Id own one either but I have several. Including one in 308 caliber. Dont shoot them much but I do own some. Got to admit though they are alot of fun.
Don't let the old man in
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I’m not really a big fan of ARs, but I do appreciate their capabilities and heritage. You have to love all the ways to customize them too. Here in the land of the Arctic Peso our current government is looking into making ARs into a military/police only type deal. They’ve put a prohibition on AK variants as well. Being a die hard lever guy, I’m not too fussed, but I do have a M1 Carbine that I love and would hate to see them mess with it’s status. Luckily we also have an election coming up in November that may get us some relief from these proposed changes.
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Wife mentioned a couple times getting one, in case they become no longer available. Rumors of Gov armageddon or zombie apocalypse.
Wife mentioned a couple times getting one, in case they become no longer available. Rumors of Gov armageddon or zombie apocalypse.
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I have 2, shot them each once. They are fun but I like my lever guns better. I too bought them because I expected they would not be available this long. I am looking to sell one or maybe both because I just do not shoot them.
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We all use pump guns... The kids both have Browning BPS's and I use my grandfathers old Remington Wingmaster. Been looking at a Mossberg semi-auto though... Might be my firearm purchase of 2020.... (I'm maxed out for 2019PT7 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:38 pmThree-gun competition is a great sport, Greyhawk! And yes, the AR suits it just fine. Glad to hear your kids are involved in it. Let your wife know she picked quite an interesting moniker in using "CSR."Greyhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:25 pm
Welcome to the 'dark side' sir! To be honest I have mixed feelings about being an AR owner at times. But, I sure have enjoyed competing in three-gun competitions with my kids this year, and using an AR in the rifle section of the comp is about the only way to go if you want to be competitive. My wife refuses to call it an AR, she calls it a CSR (Competition Sport Rifle) and that is how we use them.
Being part of our local firearms sporting community has been great for my kids. How often do you see 15 year old girls competing against 65 year old men in a sport? Yet, that is three gun in our neck of the woods. Everyone has been positive, encouraging, and respectful, while all the time being surrounded by AR's, Shotguns and semi-auto pistols. As we know there are many positive sides to firearms that are not shown at all in the media or the culture. Firearms (and hunting) have brought the generations in my family together in numerous unique ways.
One definite positive is that my 4 kids really like hanging out with old guys and firearms. And that has been nothing but good in our lives.
I'd like to find out what shotgun you/they use in your competition? That was the coolest firearm for me used in this sport. I used a Benelli 12ga Pump, and always was challenged when having to reload it...even with a mag capacity of 7. It was a blast to take out a wooden door and the ground flip targets in the s/g part.
Sure hope the kids keep after it. The younger age is a definite ++plus++ to doing well in this active sport,
Enjoy!
PT7
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I don't know if I could teach this old dog the new tricks required to really enjoy and get the most out of what a good "CSR" would bring to the party. Seems like an endless list of parts and accessories and LOTS of moving parts to keep clean and maintain, but maybe the operative phrase is "seems like" and it's not really that complicated.
The number of manufacturers is also pretty daunting, so it's hard to know where to start, so I'd probably go down the Sig-Sauer path, just because I have so much experience with them and their customer support.
All in all, it's just not an itch I need to scratch right now. I like the idea of a 9mm version, however. Might be worth some research...
The number of manufacturers is also pretty daunting, so it's hard to know where to start, so I'd probably go down the Sig-Sauer path, just because I have so much experience with them and their customer support.
All in all, it's just not an itch I need to scratch right now. I like the idea of a 9mm version, however. Might be worth some research...
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The forum would probably not allow some of my thoughts on this issue...It does warrant some conversation though...privately..if at all.ESquared wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:50 pmI don't know if I could teach this old dog the new tricks required to really enjoy and get the most out of what a good "CSR" would bring to the party. Seems like an endless list of parts and accessories and LOTS of moving parts to keep clean and maintain, but maybe the operative phrase is "seems like" and it's not really that complicated.
The number of manufacturers is also pretty daunting, so it's hard to know where to start, so I'd probably go down the Sig-Sauer path, just because I have so much experience with them and their customer support.
All in all, it's just not an itch I need to scratch right now. I like the idea of a 9mm version, however. Might be worth some research...
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Well, my preliminary research says it's not in my Price/Value wheelhouse anyway, so you and I can discuss offline, Mark!
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Re: Went to the Dark Side
I love lever guns, but my kids have no interest in them. They all love semi-autos. All a dad can do is hang his head and ask himself, "Oh, where did I go wrong?!?"

