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Pond Work

Post by BrokenolMarine » Sat Sep 20, 2025 1:21 pm

In the years we have been here, we have had the ups and downs with our pond. It was advertised in the sale as being spring fed and the seller told us it was twenty feet deep in the center. We later found out it was about six to eight feet deep and the pond level rose and feel at the urgings of the weather, the rain and sun was the boss. When we had the main creek widened to ease the force of the water on the culvert passing under the road, the heavy equipment operator looked at the pond, and declared that if it ever WAS twenty feet deep, they were measuring from the top of the berm. :lol: He built ponds all the time, in fact was leaving our job to go and start one. He did say it was possible that the pond HAD been fed by a small spring and the spring had been silted over and blocked.

While we had the backhoe on hand, we had an area exposed by the summer heat and had the backhoe operator dig two test holes where it might have been and... no joy. The holes were left open for twenty four hours and there was no water flow in the bottom, and they were six feet deep and six feet long and the width of the bucket. We backfilled the holes.

The decision was made to drain the pond and let it dry out completely, if it would. Then the decision would be made to:

1. Dig the pond out deeper, to the clay base and properly form the pond to prevent leakage and attempt to locate the spring, if one is there. - or - let the properly formed pond refill by Mother Nature's graces. This process will likely take a year.

2. If we decide NOT to rebuild the pond, fill the pond back in and seed the area and add that 3/4 of an acre back to the pasture. The maintenance of the area would become much easier. We don't "need" the pond to water livestock any longer and don't plan to sell the farm so it's not a "Selling Point" we need to worry about.

Our guy got to work on the project, first going behind the dam on the low side, where the water would drain directly downhill to the main creek, then flow under the road to the river. He started by cutting a large opening in the back of the dam where he could place the backhoe to cut a slot to control the flow of the pond.

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The cut took about four hours, as he also cut a drainage ditch to control the direction of the flow, and keep erosion to a minimum. Once he was ready, he put the Backhoe in place he made the cut and the water started it's trip. The color of the water in the pond is due to the pond dye Tina added every six months. NOT harmful to the fish, frogs, etc, but controlled the weed growth and algae. Available in several colors, we liked the blue.

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From the backside of the cut you can see the size of the cut through the dam. Small enough to maintain control, but large enough to allow good flow. As the flow would slow, Jimmy would take another deeper bite, deeper, not wider.

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After twenty four hours the level of the pond had dropped dramatically, and the flow had stopped. It rained hard the next morning, so the ground in the working area was slick and dangerous. We'll look at making additional cuts and working more on the pond on Monday, if possible. Otherwise, we will have to wait for the sun to do it's work and harden the exposed areas enough for the backhoe to drive onto the area and cut a ditch line.

It could take a while.

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We'll keep you posted. Regardless of the outcome, the horseshoe berm will be going. The entire berm was built from topsoil pulled down from the hayfield. Not the way you normally build the dams.
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Re: Pond Work

Post by The Happy Kaboomer » Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:56 pm

Loose your fish?.........A pond is a wonderful thing to have........By all means fix it. I have one dug in the edge of a Carolina Bay.......It too is subject to the weather........I installed a Hi-volume-low pressure pump( 50gal a minute). That I run when the water starts going down.......Never will lose my fish again.
Look up evaporation charts for bodies of water......it will stun you on how much a one acre body of water will loose to evaporation in one day.
Good luck and keep us posted
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Re: Pond Work

Post by BrokenolMarine » Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:55 pm

The Happy Kaboomer wrote:
Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:56 pm
Loose your fish?.........A pond is a wonderful thing to have........By all means fix it. I have one dug in the edge of a Carolina Bay.......It too is subject to the weather........I installed a Hi-volume-low pressure pump( 50gal a minute). That I run when the water starts going down.......Never will lose my fish again.
Look up evaporation charts for bodies of water......it will stun you on how much a one acre body of water will loose to evaporation in one day.
Good luck and keep us posted
Circle of Life. :roll:

The Blue Herons have been feasting the last month with the low water levels, as well as the foxes, bobcats, racoons and the like. We had a good number of bass, crappie, catfish, and sunfish in the pond, but the levels continued to drop in the last couple years, especially last year when the drought dried out a number of ponds around us and ours dramatically dropped. With the spring rain, ours filled up to overflowing the low end, but a few months later was back down to moderate.

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Re: Pond Work

Post by BrokenolMarine » Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:57 pm

We hope to be able to keep the pond, but the work is fine if it can be saved. The cost and maintenance isn't worth it if there isn't a spring to feed it. We no longer have the livestock here, and won't have again while WE own the place. IF we do get the pond healthy again, we'll certainly restock it. We like to fish it.
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Re: Pond Work

Post by Sir Henry » Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:58 pm

Keep us posted. I’m really enjoying this thread.
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